Might be buying New set up- Outboard Service and Warranty

[smallribber]

I am possibly about to buy a new Rib and possibly new 4 stroke but I have a nice 2 stroke Yamaha that is bullet proof and would suite the NEW rib nicely.

Apart from the £10,300 for the new engine if they want it main dealer 'serviced' for the next 5 or what ever years to keep the warranty that would cost me quite a lot of time and faff and also I estimate about £3,000 - £4,000 over the next 5 years.

This is kind of big time putting me off the new engine option.

Any views ?

[69cmw]

Originally Posted by Easedalenovice

they want it main dealer 'serviced' for the next 5 or what ever years to keep the warranty that would cost me about £3,000 - £4,000 over the next 5 years.



This is kind of big time putting me off the new engine option.



Any views ?

The dealer is taking the piss.

[Nasher]

Originally Posted by Easedalenovice

I have a nice 2 stroke Yamaha that is bullet proof and would suite the NEW rib nicely.

£10,300 for the new engine

warranty - I estimate about £3,000 - £4,000 over the next 5 years.

Any views ?

I know I've edited your original post heavily, and you didn't mention the additional weight of the 4-stroke.
I also know from your previous posts that you are happy to look after the engine yourself. (OMG did I really start that one off again)

I'd be asking why on earth you'd even be considering the new engine?

But I'm a cheapskate after-all.

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by Nasher

I know I've edited your original post heavily, and you didn't mention the additional weight of the 4-stroke.
I also know from your previous posts that you are happy to look after the engine yourself. (OMG did I really start that one off again)

I'd be asking why on earth you'd even be considering the new engine?

But I'm a cheapskate after-all.

To be honest I only had a very brief moment of considering the new engine. I suspect my thoughts were these:

I am 60 years old, Her indoors could not have Children, Because of this and other factors we have a bit of cash so why not just have it all new and set up for you. If not now when will you spend that cash.

But other factors like:

The 70 2 stroke (Yam) can generally be used and ignored re serious maintenance. Just replace the gear oil occasionally and the impeller when needed (every 3 - 5 years).

With an old 2 stroke on the back it is less likely to be nicked.

Arranging the maintenance and towing the boat in and collecting again for the 4 stroke maintenance is a bit of a faff.

I have no real confidence that the 'Service' wont mess up other stuff.

I know 2 strokes better and yes they are lighter.

The 2 stroke I have seems to be the one hanging off almost all boats going up and down the Zambezie which I think says a lot.

So I have my answer.... Just a fleeting moment of madness

Also get the old cowl of the 2 stroke 'wrapped' to snaz it up a bit

[Nasher]

Thank goodness for that.

I though I'd gone back 20yrs in RibNet history when all the talk was about who was buying what 9M RIB and the best engine option for the Range Rover Sport they were putting on order the tow it.

[The Black Pig]

It has got rather a tumbleweed ghost town feel about now

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by The Black Pig

It has got rather a tumbleweed ghost town feel about now

No worries here. What do you think. Ribnet generally I would say

[tinker]

Originally Posted by The Black Pig

It has got rather a tumbleweed ghost town feel about now

Like Salcombe in the winter ?

[The Black Pig]

Originally Posted by tinker

Like Salcombe in the winter ?

Yes........and as effective as your mmsi number!

[spartacus]

Originally Posted by Easedalenovice

The 70 2 stroke (Yam) can generally be used and ignored re serious maintenance. Just replace the gear oil occasionally and the impeller when needed (every 3 - 5 years).

With an old 2 stroke on the back it is less likely to be nicked.

You must like living dangerously. I used to renew the impeller every year, but unless you’re working commercially, every other year is fine. Just the fact you’re dropping the leg all helps with maintenance, and keeping things from seizing. Treat it to a new thermostat gasket (after inspection), gear oil, lube the linkages, and new sparks. Look after the engine and it will look after you.

Not sure the old 2-stroke isn’t desirable philosophy works. If it’s available they will take it. I always wonder about big 4-stroke lumps and the logistics of moving them without an engine hoist, but where there’s a will there’s a way.

A new 4-stroke 70hp would be ideal, but you have a number of boats, so it doesn’t make sense unless the money is burning a hole in you pocket. You could downsize your fleet?

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by spartacus

You must like living dangerously. I used to renew the impeller every year, but unless you’re working commercially, every other year is fine. Just the fact you’re dropping the leg all helps with maintenance, and keeping things from seizing. Treat it to a new thermostat gasket (after inspection), gear oil, lube the linkages, and new sparks. Look after the engine and it will look after you.

Not sure the old 2-stroke isn’t desirable philosophy works. If it’s available they will take it. I always wonder about big 4-stroke lumps and the logistics of moving them without an engine hoist, but where there’s a will there’s a way.

A new 4-stroke 70hp would be ideal, but you have a number of boats, so it doesn’t make sense unless the money is burning a hole in you pocket. You could downsize your fleet?

No boat makes much sense. Why down size looks like going backwards maybe

The world and the environment does not need all that unnecessary replacement of stuff that is perfectly good.

I have more than 16 outboards and been boating 15 plus years and have never yet replaced a spark plug. I have had very few issues with all my engines and prefer to believe what I know through experience to be true rather than the hype peddled by people offten with a vested interest.

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by spartacus

Look after the engine and it will look after you.

?

Or tinker with it unnecessarily and it will let you down

Back to the point of the thread which is does the insisted on maintenance over 5 years by manufacturers to keep a warranty put you off buying a new large outboard

[69cmw]

Originally Posted by Easedalenovice

Back to the point of the thread which is does the insisted on maintenance over 5 years by manufacturers to keep a warranty put you off buying a new large outboard

No, but my local dealer doesn’t take the piss with rip off servicing costs like you quoted.

[User name]

Originally Posted by Easedalenovice

I have more than 16 outboards and been boating 15 plus years and have never yet replaced a spark plug.

Run time is more important than years in this context. I'm guessing you mustn't put many hours on them?

I'm all for getting your monies worth from parts, but there's no chance a well used spark plug is in any way reliable at even half that age.

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by User name

but there's no chance a well used spark plug is in any way reliable at even half that age.

Well they keep working fine so real life would say otherwise

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by 69cmw

No, but my local dealer doesn’t take the piss with rip off servicing costs like you quoted.

How much would he charge for say a new 100hp 4 stroke to replace all those things he would replace that most likely don't need replacing (For simplicity what many would call a service)

[User name]

Originally Posted by Easedalenovice

Well they keep working fine so real life would say otherwise

A 15 year old plug with no mileage on it might as well be a new plug.

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by User name

A 15 year old plug with no mileage on it might as well be a new plug.

It has done some mileage

[whiskylee]

Originally Posted by Easedalenovice

I am possibly about to buy a new Rib and possibly new 4 stroke but I have a nice 2 stroke Yamaha that is bullet proof and would suite the NEW rib nicely.



Apart from the £10,300 for the new engine if they want it main dealer 'serviced' for the next 5 or what ever years to keep the warranty that would cost me quite a lot of time and faff and also I estimate about £3,000 - £4,000 over the next 5 years.



This is kind of big time putting me off the new engine option.



Any views ?

Parsun outboards offer owner service & 3 years warranty! I have no experience of parsun outboards, a quick Google will give you more information on the UK stockists

[Iankristy]

With your ‘maintenance’ regime go old 2 stroke. If your not prepared to follow manufacturers regime you’ll void the warranty which seems pretty pointless.