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24 June 2009, 23:14
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Mooring Buoy
A friend of mine suggested that I set a mooring buoy in a small bay that I use for launching off the west of Ireland.
There are other buoys in the small inlet that is very sheltered.
I am thinking of doing this so that I do not have to launch and recover every day when I am there on holiday.
However --- I have no idea how to set a mooring buoy. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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24 June 2009, 23:25
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i suppose its how permanent your going to need it and how sheltered is it if the wind shifts ,some boats in our area use 3 danforth type anchors spead out on chains ie 12 oclock 4 oclock and 9 oclock positions then joining to a single riser chain on swivels to the surface bouy , though a lot depends on the type of sea bed ie rock mud ect..note if you use the traditional old type of anchor depending on depth at low water your boat could set down on a fluke and put a hole in your boat .
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24 June 2009, 23:46
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What's the situation with doing this in Ireland? I think in the UK you would have to pay the Crown Estates Commission a fee (not sure if you "apply" up front or wait for them to come knocking).
I think the other problem is you need to be able to get the gear back up from time to time to inspect for corrosion/wear etc (your insurance will probably insist on this) unless it is a drying mooring - or maybe you can dive?
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24 June 2009, 23:59
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Originally Posted by Polwart
What's the situation with doing this in Ireland?
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In harbours etc, there is usually someone at least co-ordinating this. In small bays and so forth, you rely on the co-operation of the locals. Take someone's traditional space and you'll be a long time looking for your boat . Tony will know this and sounds like he has it sussed already. (We're not big on rules as such - we prefer to think of them as guidelines. Arrrrr!)
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25 June 2009, 00:29
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Originally Posted by willk
In harbours etc, there is usually someone at least co-ordinating this. In small bays and so forth, you rely on the co-operation of the locals. Take someone's traditional space and you'll be a long time looking for your boat . Tony will know this and sounds like he has it sussed already. (We're not big on rules as such - we prefer to think of them as guidelines. Arrrrr!)
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think that may have been on my mooring ....arrrrrr
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25 June 2009, 09:13
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Mooring
Tony
I suggest you approach the locals who will probably offer you the use of an established one for a small fee or assist in setting your own . A tyre filled with concrete and the chain set in it was a mothod I used a long time ago .
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25 June 2009, 10:34
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Originally Posted by LURCHER
A tyre filled with concrete and the chain set in it was a mothod I used a long time ago .
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This is certainly the preferred method in these parts. It does require a sandy, shaley or muddy bottom to work well - the mooring needs to bed in over a few tides to secure it properly - neither rubber nor concrete have any useful weight in water, so it's really the embedded whole that's holding the craft.
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26 June 2009, 08:47
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Originally Posted by willk
This is certainly the preferred method in these parts. It does require a sandy, shaley or muddy bottom to work well - the mooring needs to bed in over a few tides to secure it properly - neither rubber nor concrete have any useful weight in water, so it's really the embedded whole that's holding the craft.
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Thanks for all the advice folks. Its not a long term mooring that I'm after as I move my boat from Donegal to Belfast quite a bit. I'll take up the advice re the locals and perhaps a concrete filled tyre and chain. Many thanks folks
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26 June 2009, 10:06
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Originally Posted by tonymac
Thanks for all the advice folks. Its not a long term mooring that I'm after as I move my boat from Donegal to Belfast quite a bit. I'll take up the advice re the locals and perhaps a concrete filled tyre and chain. Many thanks folks
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If it is just a short term thing why not use a normal anchor? Rather than haul it every time, just put a buoy on the end.
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26 June 2009, 12:23
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re tempory anchoring
I do the same thing every year with my Rib and use a 12kg CQR on a mud/sand bottom and it even survived last year when we had a F8 storm over night.
The main thing is to follow all the normal rules about anchoring, make sure its the right type for the seabed, use all chain if possible and make sure you allow enough for the tidal rise and make sure the anchor is biting and check your transits and you should be ok.
As to if your insurance will cover you is a matter for you and your insurance company to agree
Mark
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26 June 2009, 19:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by malthouse
If it is just a short term thing why not use a normal anchor? Rather than haul it every time, just put a buoy on the end.
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'cos we're a bunch o' thievin' pikeys and it'd be gone faster than snow off a hedge!
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26 June 2009, 20:33
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Originally Posted by willk
Take someone's traditional space and you'll be a long time looking for your boat .
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
'cos we're a bunch o' thievin' pikeys and it'd be gone faster than snow off a hedge!
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26 June 2009, 21:25
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What can I say? Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile*
Knowledge of one's weaknesses is a kind of strength...
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26 June 2009, 21:40
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Away and have a dram .. and let the odd 'in comer' have his day .. try Yamazaki 18yo as in my glass the now.. now that 'is' an in comer
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