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13 January 2021, 13:42
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Moving an SR4
Hello, I've been reading the forum for a while, thanks for all of the useful information so far, but I have just joined to ask a few questions of my own. I have owned a couple of sibs in the past but...
This might seem completely ridiculous and unreasonable, if so please let me know, but I thought it was worth a shot. I am looking at an Avon SR4 with 40hp 2 stroke which I really like the look of and I understand they are great boats. My question is, I do not drive a car, but live approx 150m from a gradual slipway onto a river, would it be possible to move the boat by hand over this distance and launch without a car? I am expecting it will likely be impossible, but looking for people with similar boats to advise on this. There will usually be 2 of us taking the boat out. I believe the boat and engine is around 200kg: so its heavy.
Thanks in advance.
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13 January 2021, 13:44
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Forgot to mention, it is along a quiet tarmac road and no sand involved
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13 January 2021, 13:53
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Engine: DF140a
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Assuming it’s on a decent trailer/launching dolly. Moving it on the flat will be relatively easy, even single handed. The issue will be any gradient, especially the slip. Pulling it back up any gradient will be hard work & you run the risk of it running away on any downhill.
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13 January 2021, 13:54
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Engine: DF140a
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Assuming it’s on a decent trailer/launching dolly. Moving it on the flat will be relatively easy, even single handed. The issue will be any gradient, especially the slip. Pulling it back up any gradient will be hard work & you run the risk of it running away on any downhill.
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Do you have a ride on mower ?
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13 January 2021, 14:41
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Unfortunately no ride on mower. So should be easy to get to and from the slip, but its retrieving it up the slipway after that would be the problem. I will get a picture of the slip tonight to see what you guys think. I was thinking of getting one of the trailer hitch movers and adding a diy brake to it to stop it running away on the way down. Thanks for the advice
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13 January 2021, 14:42
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Or if anyone knows of any sub 4m ribs for sale in Dorset for sale sup 3k please let me know. Cheers
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13 January 2021, 14:52
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Make: Humber Ocean Pro
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Good luck pulling that up the slipway far enough to let the flooding hull drain [emoji15][emoji15][emoji123][emoji123]
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13 January 2021, 15:06
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Originally Posted by 69cmw
Good luck pulling that up the slipway far enough to let the flooding hull drain [emoji15][emoji15][emoji123][emoji123]
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i did think that, but i believe some have plugged the holes so the hull doesnt fill
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13 January 2021, 16:42
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Town: Howth
Make: Avon
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I remember being press ganged to manually hauling an sr4 up a slip when I was 14 and on a sailing course. IIRC it used to take a fair few 14yr olds to do it.
100kg of engine + 150kg of sr4 + 200kg of trailer with a draggy jockey wheel - I don't see it happening really. I would imagine that the 150m isn't as flat as you think until you're pushing a boat that distance either.
Quad with a tow hitch?
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13 January 2021, 17:57
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Town: Leicester
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Push it where possible & use a motor mover to bring it back up any slopey bits.
If they're anything like caravan motor movers you'll need a very good battery & time!
Just been doing a bit of googling. Probably an eyewatering price but hours of fun await!
https://traxdolly.com/ Click on Trax X 2 dolly.
As another thought, how about a mobility scooter & fit a tow hitch?
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13 January 2021, 18:03
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Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
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You could use a rope pulley system if there's an anchor point at the top of the slip
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13 January 2021, 18:11
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Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
Make: Halmatic P22
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Or if anyone knows of any sub 4m ribs for sale in Dorset for sale sup 3k please let me know. Cheers
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https://www.rib.net/forum/f21/avon-sr4-85284.html
although it isn't Dorset (nothing to do with me but I like it)
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13 January 2021, 20:01
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Town: Cardiff
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have you puller sibs up the slip? pushing it isnt the issue pneumatic jockey wheel double wheel one and decent tyres on trailer/dolly will help i have on level tarmac pushed 35okg on road trailer so 500kg 50 yards many times as soon as its rolling its golden steering cn be tricky..... small mechanised unit might work high wattage Ebike?
one of these remove the skip and put a tow hitch on it https://www.lawnandpower.co.uk/produ...sporter-300kg/
maybe not
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13 January 2021, 21:42
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Town: Howth
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The Amish have this sussed
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14 January 2021, 10:46
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I always launch and recover my zapcat by hand to avoid dunking the car, admittedly it’s a bit light but still around 200kg and I only pull it up far enough the slip to the car.
On a generous slip I can pull it myself, with 2 or 3 of you it would be absolutely fine if the slip isn’t a monster.
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14 January 2021, 12:01
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Inverness
Boat name: Knotty Rita!
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Engine: Yamaha 50hp
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I have a sr4 with a yamaha 50hp, before that a lighter 40hp and i can man handle it on my own.
I usually park 30-100 yards away and roll it into the water on my own no problem.
As said though, taking it out and up a slope would be a two man job to do it safely.
If i was in your position i'd be looking for some kind of anchor point i could attach a battery and winch to to aid retrieval.
Failing that you +1 would suffice but get yourself something to throw behind the trailer wheels to use as a brake if needed, all trial and error however totally possible to do!
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15 January 2021, 11:54
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Make some sort of dolly that you could tie to somthing and fit an electric winch and a 12 volt Battery to put it up the slip
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15 January 2021, 12:48
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
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15 January 2021, 13:21
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Country: UK - England
Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
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Engine: Inboard Diesel 240HP
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Quote:
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...and judging by the picture, it's good at doing its job.
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18 January 2021, 03:49
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Town: Langkawi, Malaysia
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Get a quard (4X4 wheel motorcycle) and you'll be fine.
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