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06 September 2015, 21:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
Make: Halmatic P22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Inboard Diesel 240HP
MMSI: 235115642
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,777
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My First Post - Pacific 22
I've been lurking on this site for a bit but I'm finally in a position to possibly buy my first RIB.
I've decided I want a diesel inboard - safety, availability and price of fuel, low C of G. I've also found myself being drawn to a Pacific 22.
Is it worth holding out for a Yanmar (re)powered one or is the Mermaid engined one OK?
Is there anyone in the Southampton area who knows what they are looking at when viewing a Pac 22. I could probably do with someone who may be able to curb my enthusiasm to buy.
Cheers
Guy
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07 September 2015, 15:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London/Isle of Wight
Boat name: Orca
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 60EFI
MMSI: 235113484
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 53
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From Experience:
Is the deck a bit soft?
Can the leg go up and down OK? (is it held with strops when not in use?)
Is the steering solid (again, not soft feeling)?
We had more problems with hydraulics in the leg trim/steering which was an endless PITA. Deck was straightforward, just time consuming. As for mechanicals, other people know far more on here and the Pac 22's have a good following.
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07 September 2015, 16:49
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,626
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The mermaid engines were old reliable lumps (not saying the yanmars are not also). Some people felt they were a bit lacking in speed for typical leisure duties. Of course it depends what you want to use it for. A small number were uprated during rebuilds by mermaid after they retired from military service. Beware that there are apparently more boats around claiming to be uprated than mermaid saw! So if top speed matters to you, trial it with your typical load.
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11 September 2015, 22:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: The West End, Penryn.
Make: Delta
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 100
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 139
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Very happy with my old Pacific/Mermaid combo, just be aware that spares are limited for the Sternpowr legs. If your planning to trailer it, you'll need a substantial vehicle?
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11 September 2015, 22:34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: The West End, Penryn.
Make: Delta
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 100
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 139
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12 September 2015, 11:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
MMSI: 235076954
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,940
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Originally Posted by Poly
Some people felt they were a bit lacking in speed for typical leisure duties. Of course it depends what you want to use it for.
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Sorry about this, but I am going to have to agree with Poly ![big grin](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
My dive club bought a Pac 22, the Boats Officer being persuaded by the same arguments that the OP indicated. It was a disaster. Eventually the outdrive fell off and that was the end of that
During the short time it was running I came to the same conclusions that Poly wrote. In automotive terms it was a reasonable tractor, the experience being dominated by that 4 cylinder old tech diesel. In my opinion the hull was good, punching through chop, due to good design and sheer weight. Depends on your priorities I guess.
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12 September 2015, 18:44
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: The West End, Penryn.
Make: Delta
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 100
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 139
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The legs are a bit of a nightmare to be honest. The one that was on my boat when I bought it was in a bad way and only lasted a season after which I managed to p/x it for a better one. Lancing have the monopoly on parts in the UK. I've just bought a new prop, £45, No wonder the MOD have gone over to jet drives!
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12 September 2015, 19:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Boat name: 2XS
Make: Halmatic Pacific 24
Length: 7m +
Engine: 135hp Honda X2
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 529
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I had one for about 7 years, loved every trip with it, twice Plymouth to the Solent, i must have done 2000-2500 hrs in that time, top speed was 26 knts, did have the engine rebuilt after a few years mainly because i over fuelled it to get more power due to the extra weight of all the coding equipment and my other bit and it weighed in just under 2 1/4 tons without the trailer.
Would i buy another ohhh yes and i did (a 24') but fitted a pair of 135 outboards ![thumbs up](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/thumbs.gif) now 40 knts
They will take anything weather wise you throw at it.
good luck with your decision
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07 October 2015, 19:44
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
Make: Halmatic P22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Inboard Diesel 240HP
MMSI: 235115642
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,777
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My Pac 22
Thanks for the responses.
I did go and buy one, number 9125. It appears to have been well looked after by the previous owner. It has the standard Mermaid engine and the Stern Powr leg. It also had new Ribcraft made tubes a couple of years ago.
It has a steering leak which I've temporarily 'fixed' by cable tying a cloth around the steering column. I've bought a new seal from ASAP Supplies near Lowestoft but having done a similar type of seal on my motorbike I'll wait until I'm not impatient to use the boat before attempting the repair.
I'll use the winter lay up to get more acquainted with it and do some tinkering. I can see a bigger fuel tank being added. Vetus do a 170 litre tank which looks like it would fit between the longitudinals. Does anyone re-circ their fuel through a filter to polish it before it goes, via another filter, to the engine?
Stern Powr - I've noted the comments on availability of parts. I found a firm called Midland Marine Propulsion who advertise Stern Powr stuff although I've yet to try them.
I just need to learn how to drive the thing now.
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07 October 2015, 20:09
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,859
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GuyC
I've bought a new seal from ASAP Supplies near Lowestoft but having done a similar type of seal on my motorbike I'll wait until I'm not impatient to use the boat before attempting the repair.
ASAP are A1 - but I'd wait too! ![wink](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I'll use the winter lay up to get more acquainted with it and do some tinkering. I can see a bigger fuel tank being added. Vetus do a 170 litre tank which looks like it would fit between the longitudinals. Does anyone re-circ their fuel through a filter to polish it before it goes, via another filter, to the engine?
Unless you are determined to buy completely pants fuel, then running the fuel flow line through a decent prefilter like a Racor 500FG will be more than enough. Fit it where you can inspect easily. A 10 micron cartridge will catch virtually everything before the fuel hits the filter on the engine but will need changed quite often depending on your fuel quality. Fill with clean fuel and treat occasionally and you should be fine.
I just need to learn how to drive the thing now.
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I know just how you feel
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07 October 2015, 22:41
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,626
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If steering fluid is getting out then air must be getting in. Be very careful that you don't loose control at a critical moment - there was a tragic accident ten yrs ago attributed to this (search maib loch lomond rib)
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08 October 2015, 21:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: The West End, Penryn.
Make: Delta
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 100
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 139
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The steering leak must be a common problem, I managed with a rag cable tied around mine for a bit too! It's not a difficult job to change but ideally don't do it if you're off out for a run, just in case!
Looks like a nice tidy boat, '91 is the year of manufacture if you didn't know. I've kept my original fuel tank but fitted a large hatch for storage in front of the consul.
Have fun, they're not the fastest thing on the water but more of a Land Rover-on-Sea!
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09 October 2015, 13:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: The West End, Penryn.
Make: Delta
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 100
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 139
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On the fuel question, I have a combined filter(Delphi 296) water separator with glass bowl in line before the twin filters (also Delphi 296) on the engine itself. If you can fit a Racor it would be a nice upgrade.
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21 September 2020, 15:45
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: St helier Jersey
Boat name: Voyager
Make: Pacific 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard/inboard
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 3
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John
New on here. Had a pac 22 for 3 years. The only one in jersey apart from one with outboard.
Basically been through most things but lot’s to do. Had to find my own way. My latest problem is steering ram leaking so needs to come off.
My question is any drawings or any specific way of going about it as I’m sure it won’t come easy.
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21 September 2020, 17:51
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
Make: Halmatic P22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Inboard Diesel 240HP
MMSI: 235115642
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,777
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I'm assuming it's a Sternpowr stern drive.
I've got a manual. If you PM me with your e-mail address, I'll send it to you.
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21 September 2020, 19:09
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: St helier Jersey
Boat name: Voyager
Make: Pacific 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard/inboard
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 3
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Hi Guy
Yes it is. That would be much appreciated.
Johndawes33@msn.com
Thanks john
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22 March 2021, 19:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Harlow
Boat name: Iveston
Make: Pacific 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Inboard
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 2
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Hi john bit random question do you have a manual for sternpowr 101 trying to find a copy many thanks wayne
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15 May 2021, 21:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,951
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15 May 2021, 21:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Harlow
Boat name: Iveston
Make: Pacific 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Inboard
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 2
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Thank you very much for that, also I’m trying to find out the history of the boat a bit more can you give me a point in the right direction at all the number of the boat is 9330 many thanks
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23 August 2021, 09:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: ipswich
Boat name: FPS
Make: Halmatic Pacific
Length: 6m +
Engine: inboard diesel
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluesky
New on here. Had a pac 22 for 3 years. The only one in jersey apart from one with outboard.
Basically been through most things but lot’s to do. Had to find my own way. My latest problem is steering ram leaking so needs to come off.
My question is any drawings or any specific way of going about it as I’m sure it won’t come easy.
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Very easy to do , you will need to take one of the bushers out wher the rams fits in the leg , just so you can get a slight angle to remove the ram.
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