never ever ever fit wing-nuts to battery terminals

[simsy]

Tohastu 30hp efi

[Chris Caton]

Originally Posted by biffer

I'm not trying to argue with you, I've thought about what's been posted on this thread and I still can't understand this wing nut thing, if I was out on the water and somehow in the shit with batteries I would much rather have a wing nut that I could take off with a knife or anything I could jam between the wing and the thread than look for a specific spanner, you can't put a load of torque on the nut anyway because of what they are made of.
Your right though about arguing, it's too hot and I've only had 2 cuppa's

+1

Far to nice to be arguing over a wing nut, but I agree with Biffer, at least when your in the crap almost anything will do to nip a wing nut up, just stick a spring washer under the wing nut when it's first installed. batteries are a nightmare in dry situations, never mind on a salty damp environment on a rib. we spend a fortune on battery maintenance in work, SS fittings are just as likely to cause problems as the old fashioned lead nuts, just keep them clean with a touch of battery grease and check them as often as you top up with go juice

[matt h]

Originally Posted by PeterM

So why did the e-tec in question stop when the Battery terminals came off ?

I'd rather my engine stop than take £1000 of damage....oh and stop at the same time for any reason.

Its boring really hearing the 'etecs are amazing unlike most other current models' lines again and again....

its always the Minorities shout loudest!

[PeterM]

Originally Posted by matt h

its always the Minorities shout loudest!

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by matt h

its always the Minorities shout loudest!

Aye, 'cos we're always being picked on & discriminated against:P. Anyway, out of 10 boats that went to Ireland last week, 4 were running Etecs, I'd hardly call 40% a minority. The other 60% were split between Honda, Yamaha, suzook & Twatsoo. My maths might be a bit rusty but I reckon that's a majority, so there:P

[PeterM]

They are all the same to me..
Expensive, heavy, use to much petrol and even more expensive when they go wrong (which they all will at some point in time).

I equally dislike all of them when they break. Not to be unfair I like all of them while they all work as intended.

[jyasaki]

Still a minority. E-Tec's vs. everyone else.

jky

[matt h]

Pete..True True,they are crap when they go wrong!
I mean this is strange...Why is a 10 year old Yam worth the same as a 5 year old Evinrude? same modern build technology

[frankc]

I use wing nuts and have for years. The type of nut is not what matters but how tight it is and whether a lock nut is used does have bearing though.

The cables themselves must be routed in such a way as to not have a rotation imparted on the screwed connection. Think of the cables as mini wrenches which can undo a nut with vibration.

Have a problem which would be corrected by removing a cable without the proper wrench aboard and find out what frustration is. The wing nut is easier to work with.

[BogMonster]

I don't see the difficulty in carrying a 13mm (or whatever size your terminal nuts are) spanner in the console. I've got one in each of my vehicles in case I get an electrical short, can whip a battery lead off in a few seconds instead of hopping around swearing as it all goes up in smoke. I've never needed it, but it's not a bad insurance policy to carry one.

[frankc]

The dual batteries on my last boat were in a deep battery compartment. That is not an uncommon design. In order to remove the nuts, a ratchet wrench with the proper extension bar was required and a tight fit even with the boat on the trailer. With wave action, it was a chore you did not want to do. Wing nuts worked exceptionally well on the boat. Trying to use a short box wrench would short against the adjacent battery which was not desirable.

I have never had a problem with stainless wing nuts, but carelessly tightening them would be a problem which is no different than a standard nut. Both designs use the same standard internal thread. Either type nut should do a good job if applied correctly.

[JamesF]

Or maybe an adjustable one if you're worried about not being able to find the right spanner in a hurry.

[HUMBER P4VWL]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Aye, 'cos we're always being picked on & discriminated against:P. Anyway, out of 10 boats that went to Ireland last week, 4 were running Etecs, I'd hardly call 40% a minority. The other 60% were split between Honda, Yamaha, suzook & Twatsoo. My maths might be a bit rusty but I reckon that's a majority, so there:P

And....
I saw a twin opti and our opti, so that makes at least 10% Of 28 or so engines

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL

And....
I saw a twin opti and our opti, so that makes at least 10% Of 28 or so engines

Errr! I hate to keep rubbing it in, but you didn't go to Ireland, neither did any Optis

[HUMBER P4VWL]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Errr! I hate to keep rubbing it in, but you didn't go to Ireland, neither did any Optis

"Face slap" thought you'd said round Anglesey.

As for Ireland... Didn't want to go anyway. (Sic)