it looks like a RIB. arent they all pretty much the same thing. a hull with some rubber around it?
You're not the first person to have made a comment like this, but it is one that always surprises me.
RIBs generally have a pointy end and a blunt end and a V bottom, but that doesn't make them the same. Have a proper look at the underneath of some RIBs (or speed boats for that matter) and you might be surprised how different they are when they are designed by different people.
For instance, you're never likely to confuse a Scorpion with an Osprey, or a Ring with a Delta, or a Gemini with a Ribtec. They are all planing hulls, and all very different. Some hull designs are indeed superficially similar, but in my view anyone who says that RIBs are all the same, or all very similar, or all look the same, or that they are all copies in some way, is either not very knowledgeable or is trying to excuse the use of someone else's design.
I haven't given Jon Fuller his £10 yet, but I'm beginning to wonder whether he might be right after all.
For a hull that's '95%' his own design, it looks very, very similar to a phantom 18. The bow shape and spray rails are quite distinctive.
The transom, including the slight turn down on the chine, location, size, angle of the spray rails, the radius on the keel, and angle of the sides all look identical. The photo's speak for themselves.
It might be pointless to you, oh Lanky One, but it amuses me when I should really be taking an interest in the other Gentlemen in this meeting, I'm sat in.... They think I'm taking "minutes of meeting" on my laptop.........
It might be pointless to you, oh Lanky One, but it amuses me when I should really be taking an interest in the other Gentlemen in this meeting, I'm sat in.... They think I'm taking "minutes of meeting" on my laptop.........
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This is the suggestion I made on the pontoontalk forum to Leeway.
OK, if two boatbuilders, good boatbuilders, each built a hull to a set of identical drawings, then you took a small moulding from a critical and complicated area on each hull, say, the fwd spray rail & lower bow section, what do you think the chances are that the moulding taken from one, would fit perfectly on the other, and visa-versa?...I'll tell you...absolutely fkkn none.
So, this an excellent test for the originality of a piece of work.
I'm sure you apreciate what I'm saying, in that if two builders working from the same drawing would be unable to match work closely enough to swap moulds, the chances of such a moulding fitting 'by chance' to a 'unique' hull form would be 'billions to one'!
So, if I were to pop round my mates house, wax up the front of his boat, and take such a mould from it, would you be happy for me to publically test it against your 'unique' rib hull?
The transom looks just like my Osprey accept I have a plaining wedge!
Although superficially similar (reverse chine and one spray rail) I think that the differences would be very apparent if the two boats were put side by side.
It's interesting when you start really looking at the hull isn't it?
How many people here know how many spray rails their RIB has? Or whether they are full length? Or whether they run parallel or curve to the bow?
Most people, I suspect, neither know nor care -- and it doesn't matter at all in most cases, so long as the boat performs OK. It might explain why there is a tendency to think that they are all the same though.
How hulls are designed, and why design decisions are made, is something that doesn't often get a lot of coverage. I quite often find myself looking at things like spray rails and wonder whether they are a conscious design decision, for a methodically thought out reason, or whether they have just been out in because the designer likes the look of them.
I think it's fair also to say, that for sub 40knt craft, the rails are less important.
for this, the deadrise, amount of warp, and most importantly, ballance of setup
