New RIB for 2011....

Channel Ribs · 23 September 2010, 13:17

The early stages of finding a new boat have begun, we lasted nearly a week of being boatless before starting to look around.

Any ideas would be most welcome, the criteria are:-

Economical.
We use our RIBs a lot, >300 days a year and the shortest trip would be 10 miles.

Capable.
With the overfalls and big tides the boat needs to take a bit of sea, be agile at all speeds and capable of making passages of 60nm in a range of weather. I guess this also implies a minimum size of 6.5m?

Roomy.
Both training and surveying require a bit of deck space, room to move around carrying equipment.

What should be on the list?

HUMBER P4VWL · 23 September 2010, 13:44

Do you need a lid??

Steve_B · 23 September 2010, 13:55

A Parker

willk · 23 September 2010, 14:00

i recummend a kwinkwari

martini · 23 September 2010, 14:10

This thread is worthless without....A BUDGET!!!

wiLlfish · 23 September 2010, 14:27

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Originally Posted by willk

i recummend a kwinkwari

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kwinkwaris arr shyte

wIlf

boristhebold · 23 September 2010, 14:57

Why dont you contact several suppliers to see if they would build something more customised for your needs.

Xcraft · 23 September 2010, 15:43

X-Craft off course. You can check www.xcraft.nl if you want.
All our RIBs are custom made.

martini · 23 September 2010, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Xcraft

X-Craft off course. You can check www.xcraft.nl if you want.
All our RIBs are custom made.

Very you Martin!

Andre · 23 September 2010, 16:26

You have not said whether petrol or diesel is on your mind. I would say that for that many days of ribbing per year you should consider diesel and well suited for a 650 mtr rib is the QSD 2.0 170 HP with Bravo 1 drive. With Bravo 1 drive you can then enjoy the pleasure of Digital Throttle and Shift and the Smartcraft vessel viewer which gives you the engine management at your fingure tips.
You could also if your budget was tight opt for the 150 HP version with the Apha 1 drive. Here you would have to have cables and no Smartcraft vessel viewer
saying a 650 rib I of course had in mind the Parker 650

Not so long ago I was in Poland handing over two Parker 650 with the QSD 2.0 170HP and Alpha 1 drive. The same client has just ordered another one but this time with Bravo 1 / DTS and Smartcraft. I am very much looking forward to testing this one. These ribs are operating 7 days a week and are on the water for up to 10 hours a day in a rather hot climate.
I would have thought diesel where you are is easier to get and has got to be cheaper then petrol.

Channel Ribs · 23 September 2010, 16:33

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Originally Posted by martini

This thread is worthless without....A BUDGET!!!

True true, but I was interested in peoples views of the best boat for the job before getting into that.

Of course what I really want is a Nobby's Tonka RIB (tm).

Budget is impossible to say, it all depends on what is going on at the end of winter. What I want to know now is what to keep an eye out for

Channel Ribs · 23 September 2010, 16:36

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Originally Posted by Xcraft

X-Craft off course. You can check www.xcraft.nl if you want.
All our RIBs are custom made.

Thanks for the link, very cool boats indeed. As Martinininini suggests I think we are after something more workhorse than racehorse.

Channel Ribs · 23 September 2010, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Andre

You have not said whether petrol or diesel is on your mind. I would say that for that many days of ribbing per year you should consider diesel and well suited for a 650 mtr rib is the QSD 2.0 170 HP with Bravo 1 drive.

Best advice so far Andre

That combination would be spot on I think, at the very least it sets a benchmark to start from. What sort of performance would we get?

As for the petrol vs diesel, both are pretty well priced here so a good four-stroke is still a realistic option. Our old RIB would do the UK and back at a cost of about 100 quid in petrol.

martini · 23 September 2010, 17:04

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Originally Posted by malthouse

Best advice so far Andre

Agreed, the Parker 650 would be top of a list of very similar imitations.

I think you're bang on length-wise, any smaller would be too small for the local weather, any bigger would be great but more expensive. I always recommend to people to buy the biggest they can possibly stretch to but careful not to compromise too much on everything else to fit inside a given budget.

On the subject of fuel, surely a diesel would be a big advantage for you given that it's available quayside? I know theres ways round it but would make life much easier. Apart from that it all boils down to the age old bottom line of the diesel/petrol argument - pay now or pay later?

I'll keep my ear to the ground over the hibernation season.

ps the back of my car has sunk somewhat with the weight of the shotgun ammo I have managed to "procure" for you, must be 700-800 rounds there

hopefully I can squeeze another Alderney trip out of this season cos I don't want it!

Andre · 23 September 2010, 17:07

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Originally Posted by malthouse

Best advice so far Andre

That combination would be spot on I think, at the very least it sets a benchmark to start from. What sort of performance would we get?

As for the petrol vs diesel, both are pretty well priced here so a good four-stroke is still a realistic option. Our old RIB would do the UK and back at a cost of about 100 quid in petrol.

Cheers that was the idea.

In 2003 I joined the RI cruise to St. Malo. That time I had a Parker 630 with the Mercruiser 1.7 TDI 120HP. I do not have any records of the fuel consumption but have found my earlier records and in particular the records from the Bilboa cruise to Weymouth. I accept not the same engine and size of rib but will give some idea.
Left Littlehampton on a full tank
topped up in Yarmouth 34.48 ltrs
topped up in Weymouth 40.74 ltrs
topped up in Yarmouth 34.63 lts
topped up in Littlehampton 44.50 ltrs

a total of 154.35 ltrs of fuel and the cost then £ 46.23 - Those were the days of very cheap diesel

I don't have a chart with me to work out the distance but I guess you can do that. Interesting if it would beat the cost of £ 100.00 and my guess it will for sure.
Please post your findings.

You have an interesting project. Perhaps you will conclude it in a similar way like DVN. Good hunting

Channel Ribs · 23 September 2010, 17:24

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Originally Posted by martini

I think you're bang on length-wise, any smaller would be too small for the local weather, any bigger would be great but more expensive.

For island-hopping I reckon 6.5m is the sensible minimum, it can certainly be done in much smaller craft but this is the size where most of the time you feel good about it.

There is an Ocean 7.25m that I would really like, but it is only marginally for sale.

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Originally Posted by martini

On the subject of fuel, surely a diesel would be a big advantage for you given that it's available quayside?

Petrol is not too much of an issue, but yeah in an ideal world a boat used as much ours deserve diesel.

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Originally Posted by martini

Hopefully I can squeeze another Alderney trip out...

Everyone reckons your boat is a gun runner's, so it seems sensible to prove them right.

BogMonster · 23 September 2010, 22:27

If you're after a new boat, there may be a very nice twin engined Arctic 28 for sale in the near future, ex Customs seizure from a busted arms dealer

Channel Ribs · 24 September 2010, 07:21

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Originally Posted by BogMonster

If you're after a new boat, there may be a very nice twin engined Arctic 28 for sale in the near future, ex Customs seizure from a busted arms dealer

tim griffin · 24 September 2010, 07:29

Hi Martin
What about a Solent 6 m or 6.5 m nice little boats along with all the others mentioned.
Tim

Mollers · 24 September 2010, 08:10

What about Willko's RB?