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19 August 2013, 21:27
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Country: UK - England
Town: Pudsey
Boat name: Aquaticus / HATOWIL
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Bench seat and well made boat can be a fine combination. Seats like this work well. Need to move on from the park
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19 August 2013, 21:33
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Originally Posted by RMS
Bench seat and well made boat can be a fine combination. Seats like this work well. Need to move on from the park
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I'm sorry, I cannot see how anyone can stay in/on a bench seat in heavy offshore conditions. It's tough enough staying put on a jockey.
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19 August 2013, 21:35
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Take a look at Seadogz commercial Redbay also with a bench seat and they would not be without it, similar on other commercial RIBs we see around UK
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19 August 2013, 21:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
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Originally Posted by Maximus
Yeah them Ply Decks are Shite! ...... Bench Seat=Bench Mark eh!
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Didn't say they are shite, just I do not like them as much as a nice well finished moulded deck!
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19 August 2013, 21:46
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Town: Pudsey
Boat name: Aquaticus / HATOWIL
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Originally Posted by Mollers
I'm sorry, I cannot see how anyone can stay in/on a bench seat in heavy offshore conditions. It's tough enough staying put on a jockey.
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Round Anglesey in April(and it certainly wasn't flat as plenty on here will confirm) it was the most comfortable place to be on my boat. Bit wet granted but I sat in the back whilst my son was helping round Carmel Head.
Anyway the original question was advice about boats with this sort of arrangement. The point is that whilst jockeys are great, if you want a family space and seating set up it needn't be a terrible compromise.
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19 August 2013, 21:52
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Originally Posted by Mollers
I'm sorry, I cannot see how anyone can stay in/on a bench seat in heavy offshore conditions. It's tough enough staying put on a jockey.
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Thats good, because thats exactly what my rib wont be used for with a 4,6 and 12 year old, but thanks for your input to my thread
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19 August 2013, 21:55
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Kick'em Jenny
Make: Brig Navigator 570
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Originally Posted by csjukes
In terms of the brig 610, the 570 navigator was reviewed in powerboat and rib magazine and they were very impressed to say the least. Plus the brigs look fresh and not too many on the water. Ribeye is a ribeye and guaranteed a proper boat but i would go for the brig. 4 big jockey seats and large bench plus i think you can go to 150hp. Black tubes with a black evinrude, cant go wrong!
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We have a Brig Navigator 570 and so far have been pretty impressed with it too - not had it very long but seems to go well in most conditions we've thrown at it. The 610 is basically the same (apart from the obvious 40cm of length) but with 4 jockyseats instead of 2. The 570 we have on a 90 ETEC so you'd need to be thinking 125ish i guess for the 610
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19 August 2013, 22:13
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Originally Posted by Oli.
Thats good, because thats exactly what my rib wont be used for with a 4,6 and 12 year old, but thanks for your input to my thread
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You're welcome, but we've digressed slightly from your cottonwool enveloped kids to a more general jockey v bench discussion.
From the information that you've given, I'd suggest that a Brig would suit you perfectly.
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19 August 2013, 22:15
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Brig or maybe a Piranha, but dont know much on these???
My mate has a ribeye 600, and loves it but says it probably isnt best suited to my needs.
Test drives needed
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19 August 2013, 22:17
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Originally Posted by Oli.
Brig or maybe a Piranha,
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Yep, anything of that ilk.
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19 August 2013, 22:18
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Originally Posted by IanT
We have a Brig Navigator 570 and so far have been pretty impressed with it too - not had it very long but seems to go well in most conditions we've thrown at it. The 610 is basically the same (apart from the obvious 40cm of length) but with 4 jockyseats instead of 2. The 570 we have on a 90 ETEC so you'd need to be thinking 125ish i guess for the 610
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Yes the 570 is a great looking boat. The only thing that puts me off is the bench seat at the back actually. I just think its lacks design and no grab handles or shape to sit in but it is a great rib none the less. By any chance were you in salcombe today??
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19 August 2013, 22:20
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Originally Posted by csjukes
Yes the 570 is a great looking boat. The only thing that puts me off is the bench seat at the back actually. I just think its lacks design and no grab handles or shape to sit in but it is a great rib none the less.
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19 August 2013, 22:30
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19 August 2013, 22:45
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Kick'em Jenny
Make: Brig Navigator 570
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csjukes
Yes the 570 is a great looking boat. The only thing that puts me off is the bench seat at the back actually. I just think its lacks design and no grab handles or shape to sit in but it is a great rib none the less. By any chance were you in salcombe today??
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Nope, not me. Am based in Southampton so mostly in solent area. I havent tried the bench seat so wouldnt know!!! It was pretty comfy to watch the cowes fireworks the other day !!
Seriously though if going more off shore it is generally just two of us but if we are going in a larger group its more of a family thing so slower and calmer so, for us, the bench seat isnt an issue. Horses for courses etc
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19 August 2013, 23:19
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Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
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Originally Posted by Mollers
You're welcome, but we've digressed slightly from your cottonwool enveloped kids to a more general jockey v bench discussion. :
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Well, you have! It's his thread and others are helping just a biiiiiiit more than you.
RMS- great boat.
Also unless you're airborne, the rear of the boat is unlikely to be moving much so a bench can be fine ...... Unless your SAS Mollers offshore in a typhoon getting air of every freak wave! Then your jockey is shite anyway!!! You need suspension or ICE!
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20 August 2013, 10:33
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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
... unless you're airborne, the rear of the boat is unlikely to be moving much so a bench can be fine ...... Unless your offshore.
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DOH! There was me thinking that that was the whole point of a rib.
Getting "air" is either poor or aggresive helming. A good helm can negotiate big sea without randomly launching the boat.
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20 August 2013, 10:48
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Originally Posted by csjukes
In terms of the brig 610, the 570 navigator was reviewed in powerboat and rib magazine and they were very impressed to say the least. Plus the brigs look fresh and not too many on the water. Ribeye is a ribeye and guaranteed a proper boat but i would go for the brig. 4 big jockey seats and large bench plus i think you can go to 150hp. Black tubes with a black evinrude, cant go wrong!
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Yes, with their 2 page ads and a boat on loan almost every issue I'm sure PB&R loved the Brig.
Given the crap we had from someone from Brig making up false posts because nobody had anything nice to say about them, I think I'd give them a wide berth.
Just how bad does a boat have to be to have to fabricate good feedback?...
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20 August 2013, 12:13
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Member
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Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Yes, with their 2 page ads and a boat on loan almost every issue I'm sure PB&R loved the Brig.
Given the crap we had from someone from Brig making up false posts because nobody had anything nice to say about them, I think I'd give them a wide berth.
Just how bad does a boat have to be to have to fabricate good feedback?...
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Whilst I do not condone Brigs marketing, I can speak from having a good crawl offer a few when I was in the market for a new rib and the build quality was very good indeed!
The same could not be said for Piranha ribs which where very much the inferior quality of anything I looked at!
They may have improved as this was 2 years ago, but for me I would not have considered one!
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23 August 2013, 09:35
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: livingston
Boat name: the massive
Make: valiant
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How about up sizing to a bigger valiant since you were happy with your current valiant as they are very dry boats with large tubes and with lots of locker space for all the crap that the kids take. Can't beat them for value.
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23 August 2013, 22:12
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My wife didn't like the look and layout of the V620.
However I do have test drives booked at Ribeye and Brig next week!
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