New ribcraft 585 - Page 2

matt h · 18 February 2010, 17:34

the date is about right, how does yours handle with the changes etc Pics!!

Poly · 18 February 2010, 18:00

Please let me know what you think,any improvments let me know [/quote] Console looks odd at the starboard side of the helmsman - is there an empty seat there with not cushion?

Looks like you've got a single console for a helm with a double behind it for the navigator etc. Guess the electronic toys will be at this position - will you always have a 2nd competent person on boat to use these? otherwise they'll be useless to the helm...

BLACKSTORM · 18 February 2010, 19:00

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Originally Posted by Polwart

Please let me know what you think,any improvments let me know

Console looks odd at the starboard side of the helmsman - is there an empty seat there with not cushion?

Looks like you've got a single console for a helm with a double behind it for the navigator etc. Guess the electronic toys will be at this position - will you always have a 2nd competent person on boat to use these? otherwise they'll be useless to the helm... [/quote]

Hi polwart , engine controls are going on the starboard side on the part that is right of the helmsman .Most of the toys will be up front but the will be a music player with ipod and a 2nd vhf behind daughter wants her own area

BruceB · 18 February 2010, 19:13

I would be tempted to reverse the seating arrangement and put a large screen up front. I love mine for that as it is nice in cold weather to have the wind whiped over you plus you can talk to whoever is on the boat, point things out, argue etc

Poly · 18 February 2010, 19:13

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Originally Posted by BLACKSTORM

Hi polwart , engine controls are going on the starboard side on the part that is right of the helmsman

mmm... so the helmsman can only leave his seat to port? if he comes alongside a pontoon or other boat on the startboard side he has to walk all the way round the console to tie up. Maybe thats not an issue - I guess some bigger boats have this issue with double jockeys at the front - it just struck me as awkward when on a smaller boat... ...I think I'd want to have tried that set up out before experimenting with serious cash.

chewy · 18 February 2010, 19:17

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Originally Posted by Polwart

mmm... so the helmsman can only leave his seat to port? if he comes alongside a pontoon or other boat on the startboard side he has to walk all the way round the console to tie up. Maybe thats not an issue - I guess some bigger boats have this issue with double jockeys at the front - it just struck me as awkward when on a smaller boat... ...I think I'd want to have tried that set up out before experimenting with serious cash.

He'd be better off with an alloy frame like on the Atlantic's. That way you can still have the throttles in that postion but have accessto starboard.
The layout is like a Lifeboat that Ribcraft fitted out.

BLACKSTORM · 18 February 2010, 19:21

Hi chewy
just to let you know it is a alloy frame powder coated black

C2 RIBS · 18 February 2010, 19:22

I am interested in the planned use for the new craft, It is 5.85 and has three seats which does seem a low number on board and in that arrangement may restrict options later or even on re sale. Having just put together a Ribtec 585 with twin double jockeys and a forward consul seat I have more room, but I do like the look of it

BLACKSTORM · 18 February 2010, 19:25

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Hi all this is what the console looks like , i more of the old score on ribs dont like the sports bling ribs

Poly · 18 February 2010, 19:31

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Originally Posted by BLACKSTORM

Hi all this is what the console looks like , i more of the old score on ribs dont like the sports bling ribs

No I like the style. But bear in mind that the lifeboat will never be out with just a helmsman on board (or a helmsman and a couple of clueless friends) whereas you might be. Chewy is suggesting getting rid of the box to your right and putting the throttle on some sort of bracket which is what the RNLI do. The rest of us manage with the throttle on the console so I'm not sure its strictly necessary anyway! If 3 seats is enough for your intended use then the general layout is good and the 'extra console' should provide loads of storage - something often lacking on smaller ribs.

Adam 005 · 18 February 2010, 19:43

may be a cruiser console with two one man jockey seats and rear bench.That lay out would offer lots stowage space and a good amount of seating.

BassBoy · 18 February 2010, 20:04

If you want a half price Ribcraft Deluxe swing back bench seat (ice white) in black with grey piping then call Dorian. It's ready drilled for an 8 point matrix with double hatches. Used approx 5 times. He's got mine lurking around the shop somewhere.(I hope!)

Mollers · 18 February 2010, 20:16

The boat looks superb. I almost went for black powder coat, but chickened out as I thought it mighten be to everyone's taste when it came to re-sale. The console/seating set-up is the best for a 585 IMV. It enables the console to be shoved way forward which adds to the rear deck space and keeps the nose planted. Roycruse had the same arrangement on his 585, it worked well.

Ditto what's been said re. radar mast. Bedajim had to beef his up massively to keep it in the air.
Shame about the soppy 60's.

Would you not consider a 150 and an Aux?

BLACKSTORM · 18 February 2010, 20:38

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Originally Posted by Mollers

The boat looks superb. I almost went for black powder coat, but chickened out as I thought it mighten be to everyone's taste when it came to re-sale. The console/seating set-up is the best for a 585 IMV. It enables the console to be shoved way forward which adds to the rear deck space and keeps the nose planted. Roycruse had the same arrangement on his 585, it worked well.

Ditto what's been said re. radar mast. Bedajim had to beef his up massively to keep it in the air.
Shame about the soppy 60's.

Would you not consider a 150 and an Aux?

Hi mollers the engines are not set in stone was looking at the suzi 140 four stroke also

BLACKSTORM · 18 February 2010, 20:51

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Originally Posted by C2 RIBS

I am interested in the planned use for the new craft, It is 5.85 and has three seats which does seem a low number on board and in that arrangement may restrict options later or even on re sale. Having just put together a Ribtec 585 with twin double jockeys and a forward consul seat I have more room, but I do like the look of it

HI C2RIBS the rib is just for me i just wanted one how i would like , at the most the would only be 3 on at a time unless it was a big day out then the is allways then tubes lol .Its just for the family

C2 RIBS · 18 February 2010, 22:04

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HI C2RIBS the rib is just for me i just wanted one how i would like , at the most the would only be 3 on at a time unless it was a big day out then the is allways then tubes lol .Its just for the family

Excellent, I knew you would not have done all this without a great deal of thought, It looks a great set up for you and will wage well put together.

Mollers · 18 February 2010, 22:56

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Hi mollers the engines are not set in stone was looking at the suzi 140 four stroke also

Don't forget that there are outboards out there beyond Suzuki, despite what RC might tell you.

The most suitable 150 IMV,would be the Etec. It offers the best compromise re. power, weight, noise, price. Transom weight would be an issue on the 585, so a 5/6hp 2st Aux would just about do the job with the minimum of added weight.
You'd have a superb rig with such a set-up.

John Kennett · 19 February 2010, 06:56

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Originally Posted by BLACKSTORM

Please let me know what you think,any improvments let me know

Is there a particular reason why you've chosen the lifeboat style console, apart from the look of it? For a leisure boat I can't see any real advantage, but can think of a few disadvantages:

- you've only got seating for 3 when you could easily have 4
- the helm position is much further forward than it needs to be and as a result will have a less comfortable ride
- much less space on console for mounting plotter etc
- the narrow console won't give much protection to the driver
- as previously mentioned it's less sociable and can make communication less easy
- it will probably have a lower resale value than a more conventional setup

You've chosen a great boat, but I would have it with a wide console with 2 x double jockey seats or 2 x singles and a wraparound bench seat.

Mollers · 19 February 2010, 08:13

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.....and a wraparound bench seat.

Would that be with stripey, squidgy upholstery?

Each to their own.

Maximus · 19 February 2010, 09:46

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Hi mollers the engines are not set in stone was looking at the suzi 140 four stroke also

The boat looks superb!and with the 585's pedigree its the rarest of RIB's...one which no one ever seems to knock!!Even I would have to agree with Mollers though

a single engine would compliment the layout perfectly,you can always add an auxiliary if you feel the need.I run a 130 e-tec on my RC 545[40cm shorter version]which gives me good economy,excellent top end[47+ knots]and doesn't compromise handling at all,having a great power to weight ratio.A 150 in my view would take some beating!!
What ever you decide you've chosen a great boat,and the best of luck with her!