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Old 12 December 2008, 21:11   #61
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I was going to write a response to Chris's post but will PM you instead Chris as so to respect Ians wish not to get too detailed in a discussion about the seat.

Nice mouldings Ian! Will you not lose too much rear deck space after the fit out?
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Old 12 December 2008, 21:43   #62
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Andy,
I will lose some deckspace yes but will also gain a huge storage area .....the hulls are actually quite big .......steve advertises as a 7.2 mine with the tubes on is exactly 8metres,
from the back of the transome to the front face of the seat is 1500mm .......splashwell needs to be this big cause the verado is a big lump when tilted up

fitting it will take a bit of time but i never rush things cause i'm a stickler for detail and it must be right or not at all ...

Chris/Polwart ....dont want to go into too much detail with the seats.....expect to see some variations of the Ullmans in the future especially aimed more at the leisure /long distance market.
Johan might jump in here if he's back from the US

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Ian,

is it possible to post a bigger picture of your seats. As far as I can see in your avatar picture you have finished them. Or will this bring problems with Mr U.?
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Old 30 January 2009, 00:33   #65
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Ian is sticking to his agreement with Dr.Ullman. However, I have no such agreement.

The lumbar area has an inflatable pad incorporated to give proper support to the occupant's lower back. It's adjustable by inflation and that is the hand pump bulb you can see in the picture of the seat rear.

I hope Ian doesn't take umbrage at the following comments.

Firstly I should say that the seats are for Ian's own use and there is no intention to market them.

I'm not a great believer in splashing designs but we've all got to start somewhere and before starting this project Ian had never even seen a fibreglass laminating brush let alone made a plug and taken a mould from it. Obviously he's skilled and a quick learner.

Plainly the original design was a copy of the Ullman seats because Ian was of the opinion than they were pretty much the ultimate in seat design. Personally, I think there's nothing special about the principle of the Ullman seats; a couple of leaf springs assisted by a standard gas spring. But Ian was convinced by them. However, he's quickly gained confidence and, as you can see, begun to develop his own ideas.

I'm of the opinion that the Ullman bit lets his seats down and I wouldn't be surprised to see him reject that part and come up with something special of his own. We'll wait and see.
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Old 31 January 2009, 09:52   #66
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Hi Jeff...no umbridge taken here ....

I will put up some better quality pics when i get new batteries for the camera .....now picked up the rear bench molding from shakespeares, delighted with it ...their work is very underestimated ......their new patriot console is a beauty ....one of the best i've seen ....cleverly thought out and very sporty looking
they seemed very busy ......a new revenger 29 in the mold and they were rigging another revenger

.....also nipped down to Lymington to stainless steve to let him measure up for the A frame.

covered a few miles over the last few days

question for the scorpion owners on here

is there access to tighten/slacken the A frame after the tubes have been bonded on??
also same with cables etc???
also whilst down in lymington i looked at a scorpion and had a shake of its A frame mounting and it seemed quite flexible almost to the point of bursting the fibreglass , the fibreglass moulding flexed rather than the A frame....and that wasnt a hard shake either ....is this normal or has wear and tear got to it. The rib i looked at had a ski point on the top of the A frame but i dont think you could risk pulling anything from it

are any others like this or was it just an anomily ...although the rib didnt look old


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Why?

Was he worried you might be able to undercut his ridculous price?

Its not as though you copied his deign was it?
Wow Iando! great job there mate,they look totaly proffesional,but I have to agree with Chris,to my mind you are following a long tradition of British inovation! so whats the problem?.. often brought about by nessesatey[or dwindleing funds!] and no,I'm not about to mention you're from north of the border!! JUST BRILLIANT,only wish I had half your skill!
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I agree, brilliant Job Ian. I am curious to see more pics of your Shakespeare Project.
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New Console

Further to Ians posting regarding our new console here are a Ribnet Exclusive some sneaky snaps of the first moulding, admittedly prior to the screen, stainless rails, rebated fuel filler and upholstery being fitted.
The large forward seat, which will be fitted with stainless gas struts, gives superb access to the rear of the dash area and creates a huge stowage locker to boot. I will post further pics once fitted.

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Further to Ians posting regarding our new console here are a Ribnet Exclusive some sneaky snaps of the first moulding, admittedly prior to the screen, stainless rails, rebated fuel filler and upholstery being fitted.
The large forward seat, which will be fitted with stainless gas struts, gives superb access to the rear of the dash area and creates a huge stowage locker to boot. I will post further pics once fitted.

My mouth is watering!

What is the double Patriot seat like?

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yep thats the one......Steve ....you need a better picture showing the stainless off ......I'm toying with the idea of ripping out the aquaflyte one and getting this instead .....i'll see how i feel after doin the rear molding

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Ian, we are just waiting for the 1st "proper" set of stainless rails to arrive as soon as these, the gas struts and the acrylic screen are fitted I will post more pics.

Neil will get back to you soon with price and pic of bench seat
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Old 09 February 2009, 10:06   #73
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Helm Bench Seat

Neil,

here are the latest pics of the new helm seat mouldings - still awaiting stainless rails, upholstery and fitting to the base plinth moulding which will form another stowage locker with this upper moulding being hinged backwards on the base.
Will post further pics as they become available.

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Further to Ians posting regarding our new console here are a Ribnet Exclusive some sneaky snaps of the first moulding, admittedly prior to the screen, stainless rails, rebated fuel filler and upholstery being fitted.
The large forward seat, which will be fitted with stainless gas struts, gives superb access to the rear of the dash area and creates a huge stowage locker to boot. I will post further pics once fitted.

Hi Steve, I like the new console too. The front seat and backrest that hinges up is a terriffic Idea and should provide plenty of room inside, is there going to be a seal between seat and console to keep everything water tight or are you relying on the shape/lip of the moulding to do the job? What are the overall dimensions?

I'm looking forward to the finished product.
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Andy - check the specs on the wbsite:-
www.ribs-by-shakespeare.co.uk

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Cheers Dai,

just the upholstery to get sorted now then should`nt be too long before we get her tubed & rigged.
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