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21 April 2020, 16:12
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Country: Other
Town: Seychelles
Boat name: The Loulou
Make: Hand made
Length: 3m +
Engine: 25 outboard
Join Date: Apr 2020
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New to boating with a new second hand RIB looking for advice
I recently just bought this custome made fiber glass "rib". Im going to be using it for close to shore fisihing, i stupidly bough a long shaft 25hp engine for it after fitting it i realised I probs should of got a short shaft. Im thinging of raising the transom. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best affordable way tondo this. Also i live in the Seychelles so order specific products can be expesive and timley, im looking for a more of a DIY job : )
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21 April 2020, 16:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,529
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hello mate welcome when the engine is down how far below the keel is the cavitation plate
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21 April 2020, 17:46
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Seychelles
Boat name: The Loulou
Make: Hand made
Length: 3m +
Engine: 25 outboard
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 9
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Thanks Jeff, the cavitation plate sits around 5"ish below the keel, when trying to turn it feels pretty heavy. Do you think being so low would cause the front to lift we accelerating?
Thanks
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21 April 2020, 18:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Franburger
Thanks Jeff, the cavitation plate sits around 5"ish below the keel, when trying to turn it feels pretty heavy. Do you think being so low would cause the front to lift we accelerating?
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Way too low, that’s the wrong length engine for that boat.
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21 April 2020, 19:01
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Seychelles
Boat name: The Loulou
Make: Hand made
Length: 3m +
Engine: 25 outboard
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 9
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Yeah sure is, sadly i cant return the engine to the shop as its been used, so ny only option is to raise the transome. Any thoughts on the bestbway to do this?
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21 April 2020, 19:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Fakenham
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: 75hp 2 stroke mercur
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 62
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Do you think you can raise the transom 5”? If not, best to look at another engine.
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21 April 2020, 19:09
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Seychelles
Boat name: The Loulou
Make: Hand made
Length: 3m +
Engine: 25 outboard
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 9
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Originally Posted by Unknown
Do you think you can raise the transom 5”? If not, best to look at another engine.
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I think I can!! where the engine sits the transom dips down by 2" so by leveling out the transom and then adding 3ish inches i should be good. The question is whats the best way of doing it. Wood and fiber glass, metal bar across the transome??
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21 April 2020, 20:53
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Country: UK - England
Town: Fakenham
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: 75hp 2 stroke mercur
Join Date: Sep 2019
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Looking at the transom, it looks like it’s flush with the top of the tubes already. I’m not sure if raising the overall height is a good thing or not. People raise them in various ways, fibreglassing is the best way though.
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21 April 2020, 22:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,529
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Yep short shaft transom 15 inch long shaft engine 20 inch long now if you have to keep the engine I would have a jacking plate around £250 on the other hand if I lived in the seashells I would accept any length of engine go slow and enjoy
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22 April 2020, 06:51
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: teesside
Boat name: magic
Make: humber 5.5
Length: 5m +
Engine: mariner 115
MMSI: 232012453
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,557
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I have an xl outboard on my humber destroyer I have bought these haven't been able to fit them yet with the lockdown but should do the job
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CMC-Stati...72.m2749.l2649
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22 April 2020, 08:40
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Seychelles
Boat name: The Loulou
Make: Hand made
Length: 3m +
Engine: 25 outboard
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 9
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Yeah decent this is the kinda thing im looking for, Thanks!! I'm thinking It will have to be a DIY job as theres no ebay out here lol I will let you know how I get on : )
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22 April 2020, 08:42
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Seychelles
Boat name: The Loulou
Make: Hand made
Length: 3m +
Engine: 25 outboard
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 9
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Slows not an option lol I've just looked into jacking plates and it seems like a uch better option and raising the entire transom, Thanks!!
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22 April 2020, 11:04
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cheltenham
Make: Marex
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 351
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I see 3 options
1. New Boat
2. New engine
3. Some form of Jack Plate
Good Luck - wish I was in the Seychelles!
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22 April 2020, 11:29
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Seychelles
Boat name: The Loulou
Make: Hand made
Length: 3m +
Engine: 25 outboard
Join Date: Apr 2020
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Hahaha im going for option 3, fingers crossed.
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22 April 2020, 12:22
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Country: UK - England
Town: Midlands
Boat name: SR4.7
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 60 EFI
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Converting to a shortshaft might be another option... you'd need to switch the drive shaft out for a short, new water tube and then a driveshaft housing. Not difficult to do on these, just depends on avaliability of parts.
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22 April 2020, 13:21
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Country: Other
Town: Seychelles
Boat name: The Loulou
Make: Hand made
Length: 3m +
Engine: 25 outboard
Join Date: Apr 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by samt
Converting to a shortshaft might be another option... you'd need to switch the drive shaft out for a short, new water tube and then a driveshaft housing. Not difficult to do on these, just depends on avaliability of parts.
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Thanks Sam, I'll deff look into this if the DIY jack plate doesnt work! Sounds cheaper than replacing the boat or whole engine
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27 April 2020, 15:23
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Country: UK - Scotland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Mar 2017
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Definitely go with a fixed jack plate with minimum setback. Much better than messing with the transom itself
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27 April 2020, 17:46
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Seychelles
Boat name: The Loulou
Make: Hand made
Length: 3m +
Engine: 25 outboard
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 9
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Thanks Andrew, yeah jack plate looks like the best option, when lockdown ends on the 4th over here its my.first job
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27 April 2020, 23:38
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider 450 Rib
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 5/18/30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,998
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Some Issues :
How tall is the transom measured in straight line from transom's center to the Rib's bottom hull ? If it's 50-53 centimeter tall needs a Long Shaft Motor..
If the lower leg is too long, the motor should experience small to medium water splashes at back transom, the deeper the more it will shower as in pic. Test at wide open throttle with motor previously trimed to 90 deg, perpendicular to water level. Probably only needs a motor/transom height fine tuning for water flow at speed to skim right under the upper splash plate which is the ideal lower leg height for any motor with tall horizontal lower leg plates distance such as Tohatsu and their rebranded versions.
If need to raise the motor, these are excellent choices to avoid rising and fiberglassing the transom to its new height.
Happy Boating
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01 May 2020, 01:24
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider 450 Rib
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 5/18/30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,998
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If you don't want to go for a transom height modification nor install a motor mount or a rear jack plate as previous posted pics. You need to go for a wot run with deck load well balanced, motor trimmed to 90 deg (fully vertical on transom) and check how much water intrusion is the lower leg producing at front leg. Apart from the shower the combo will be slowed down as there will be too much water leg drag exerted against the lower leg's front.
Check link for plain understanding how the splash was totally solved. If having any tech question just ask, that's what this nice forum is for...
https://www.rib.net/forum/f36/outboa...tml#post811362
Having a L Tohatsu motor could duplicate it, it's peanuts cost and works as a charm...
Happy Boating
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