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19 June 2013, 22:29
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new winch recommendations
how do folks,
i'm thinking of upgrading the winch on my trailer to help with loading the ole rib.
when i'm at loch lomond my mrs needs to winch the boat onto the trailer until it is far enough up for me to jump off.
what i'm weighing up is would a better hand winch be easier to use or do i just chuck a leccy one on and call it quits. although the thought of needing to power it may pose a problem i could avoid with a better hand winch...........opinions?
cheers
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19 June 2013, 22:58
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Leccy is more likely to fail, and they aren't quick.
I'd go for a decent 2 speed hand winch.
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20 June 2013, 07:09
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Leccy is more likely to fail, and they aren't quick.
I'd go for a decent 2 speed hand winch.
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& throw away the webbing strap & get a 10mm Dyneema rope made up.
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20 June 2013, 07:30
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Nah, replace the real weak link - go and find yourself a more 'substantial' Mrs.
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20 June 2013, 07:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Leccy is more likely to fail, and they aren't quick.
I'd go for a decent 2 speed hand winch.
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+1 stay away from levy winches, unless your fitting a proper one on your front bumper, trailer mounted winches are a nightmare to power
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20 June 2013, 08:56
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Nah, replace the real weak link - go and find yourself a more 'substantial' Mrs.
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that's usually an expensive process! A dry suit so he can get off before she's hauled him home might be an alternative.
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20 June 2013, 09:11
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Having used that slip a couple of times (I assume you aree talking about Balloch?) I can usually get the trailer sufficiently far in that I can get a good 2/3 of the way to the bow snubber.
So: This may need a bit of faffing on a quiet day, but:
-Park it and note where the trailer is submerged to.
- Nose the boat in until it hits the rollers
- Unwind the strop 'till it uis in just the right place to clip on, then add an inch or two.
Let the srtrop drop so you can mark with indellible pen on the trailer chassis where the hook is.
then you know exactly how to set it up in readiness and your good lady can stand with wellies (based on my set- up wellies are more than enough & I would imagine form what I remmeber of your trailer yours won't be too dissimilar) and just clip on - you then jump over the bow & start winching for the last couple of feet.
Another alternative is you give her lots of low speed manoevering practice & you stand there with the winch?
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23 June 2013, 15:22
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thanks gents, i'll look into a decent 2 speed winch then. it is not an issue normally and wellies would cure it-but that is one more thing to forget to lift :-)
also it is not cool going to LL with wellies on now is it :-)
cheers
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23 June 2013, 15:35
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Originally Posted by Xk59D
thanks gents, i'll look into a decent 2 speed winch then. it is not an issue normally and wellies would cure it-but that is one more thing to forget to lift :-)
also it is not cool going to LL with wellies on now is it :-)
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hmmmmmmm.......... as I remember it, LL is cool enough even in summer, wellies is better than desert wellies that's for sure
also, worth checking all your roller are rolling freely to make the winching as easy as possible, nowt worse than struggling with the winch when there's a crowd around
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23 June 2013, 16:10
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+1 got one on the trailer the revenger is on, great winch, just remember to take the handle off before you tow it or it may fall off on the way
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23 June 2013, 16:11
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I've been through 3 handles in the last year. They have a habit of getting stolen as well as falling off!
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23 June 2013, 16:14
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Originally Posted by Tim M
I've been through 3 handles in the last year. They have a habit of getting stolen as well as falling off!
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never had one stolen, but probably because I always took it off after one fell off on the way home, not cheap to replace either, but the winch is spot on, pulls our 23ft Revenger onto the SBS trailer no probs
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23 June 2013, 16:16
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Originally Posted by Chris Caton
cheap to replace either
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Extreme trailers (who are selling the winch I just linked to) have the handles available at £14.95 inc delivery in their ebay shop
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23 June 2013, 16:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim M
Extreme trailers (who are selling the winch I just linked to) have the handles available at £14.95 inc delivery in their ebay shop
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good to know
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23 June 2013, 18:38
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i'll pick one up, i currently have the normal one that comes with rollercoaster trailer. it is ok but time for an upgrade to make life easier. :-)
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23 June 2013, 20:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim M
I've been through 3 handles in the last year. They have a habit of getting stolen as well as falling off!
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I keep the winch handle in the boot of the car.....can't forget it then
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25 June 2013, 20:32
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I copied this bloke a year or so ago...
no negatives so far ?..one positive is you don't dunk the trailer as far in,(my wheels are in up to the tyre) to make the winding easier,.so as long as the slip is steep enough,your boat bearings will last as long as your cars.
Also much easier is you have a pontoon to launch yourself.
winch is terra 45 with dyneema line.
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25 June 2013, 23:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xk59D
also it is not cool going to LL with wellies on now is it :-)
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You don't have to go in wellies... you can put them on when you get there.
At Balloch you can walk the boat onto the trailer if you put it close enough to the centre jetty. And the slope is so shallow you could probably float it fully onto the trailer with a little patience (though I stress I haven't tried this bit).
Oh an +1 for checking the rollers are rolling. How bigs the boat? If it 6m or under I shouldn't think it ought to be *that* difficult to winch onto the trailer.
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26 June 2013, 07:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clamchowder
Oh an +1 for checking the rollers are rolling. How bigs the boat? If it 6m or under I shouldn't think it ought to be *that* difficult to winch onto the trailer.
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hmmmmmmmmm.................. seem to remember you we're just a spectator, Jeff thought he was having a heart attack
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