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05 September 2004, 20:32
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Nitrogen filled pontoons!!
Hiya
Just wondering whether anybody has used nitrogen in their RIB's. Many tyre shops are offering free tyre fills with nitrogen.
Any ideas??
Regards
miles
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05 September 2004, 20:52
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As far as i can recall the only reason that they use nitrogen is because it does not get affected as much as normal "air" by heat. So it does not fluctuate in pressure as much as normal "air".
No idea what it would do in a RIB....
However, i think it was mainly due to the fact that the tyres have quite a bit of friction on the road (duh!) and could warm up..
I dont really see your RIB's tubes heating up from water....
Dont know if im right.. but i vagually recall something.
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05 September 2004, 21:01
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I'm not sure if it would be a good idea (or if it wouldn't, for that matter), but if what is said above is the sole difference, then it would be a good idea, as very hot weather could cause the normal air to expand, taking the pressure on the tubes too high.
I would be wary of the ammount of pressure the hoses can output though, remember they are designed to pump up a tyre with several tons of car sitting on top if it!
Dan
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05 September 2004, 21:16
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Surely you have 79% nitrogen in the tubes now ? whats going to change with 100% nitrogen ? and given that air is free....
Pete
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05 September 2004, 23:33
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And if you have pressure release valves, it's all going to vent out on a hot sunny day anyway.....
Maybe we should try Hydrogen and fly to the coast????
Mike C
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05 September 2004, 23:36
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Hmmm, Hydrogen eh?
You could run your engine off it! You would have two things at once!
A. It would float/fly and B. You would never have to worry about storing that emergency fuel can!
I'd fill mine with Carbon Dioxide, it would not burn as well!
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06 September 2004, 02:45
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08 September 2004, 12:08
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They started using Nitrogen in tyres because it is a more thermally stable than air and less likely to leak out because it has a larger molecular structure.
There is also a view that it is better for the tyre because without oxygen you get no oxidisation of the inner wall.
I am not sure that much of this applies to a rib tubes because hypolon is less permeable than rubber, having said that the thermal characteristics might to good.
Des
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08 September 2004, 12:13
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to be honest I thik Nitrogen filled pontoons would be veery interesting at low tide every Marina should have em
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08 September 2004, 12:30
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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
to be honest I thik Nitrogen filled pontoons would be veery interesting at low tide every Marina should have em
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I think this is a classic case of ‘two nations divided by a common language’ American may speak English but they don’t understand it and they keep using the wrong word.
In the US a pontoon is a dock and a bum bag is a fanny pack and I have no idea what a tush is.
Des
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08 September 2004, 19:18
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Des - Arse!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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08 September 2004, 22:50
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Go for Helium ..... it would probably leak out quicky, BUT could give you additional lift by reducing the boat weight, hence go faster!!!
Maybe ... then again I may be talking bollox!
And then we get to Hydrogen ... go on I dare somebody!
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08 September 2004, 23:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scary Des
In the US a pontoon is a dock and a bum bag is a fanny pack and I have no idea what a tush is.
Des
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I think it was an album by Fleetwood Mac
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09 September 2004, 00:01
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You should try filling you tubes with methane.......
Gazza
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09 September 2004, 09:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazza
You should try filling you tubes with methane.......
Gazza
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Now your talking out of your 'tush'
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09 September 2004, 09:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
I think it was an album by Fleetwood Mac
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Wasn't that "Tusk"?
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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