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28 January 2012, 21:30
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Nitrogen filled Tubes
Does anybody use Nitrogen to fill tubes from empty? This would and does make pressure changes due to heat/cold null and void.
Assuming tube material to be non-reactive to Nitrogen. In emergencies air can be added with no adverse effects.
Seems a good idea to me as long as there's a regulator and no leakage.
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28 January 2012, 21:34
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Originally Posted by mister p
Does anybody use Nitrogen to fill tubes from empty? This would and does make pressure changes due to heat/cold null and void.
Assuming tube material to be non-reactive to Nitrogen. In emergencies air can be added with no adverse effects.
Seems a good idea to me as long as there's a regulator and no leakage.
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http://www.rib.net/forum/f8/filling-...air-41161.html
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28 January 2012, 21:35
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I used to use a common mix with 79% Nitrogen in mine. It caused no problems with the tubes but I did notice some expansion in sunlight.
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28 January 2012, 21:36
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I used to use a common mix with 79% Nitrogen in mine. It caused no problems with the tubes but I did notice some expansion in sunlight.
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Why not 100%?
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28 January 2012, 21:42
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Why not 100%?
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It was before the Repeal of Boyle's Law, so I was having to make do with what was available.
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28 January 2012, 21:48
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Oh the huge manatee, the huge manatee..
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28 January 2012, 21:48
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All that singing.......so Susan is now passing laws. How repealing.
So you had some Nitrogen hanging about..........just enough to fill 79% of your tubes?
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28 January 2012, 21:51
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Nitrogen is an Ideal gas for sponsons
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28 January 2012, 21:58
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Yes, that was my thinking too......is it commonly used?
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28 January 2012, 22:05
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I had my car done and it took ages to fill four tyres, god knows how long a rib would take to fill.
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28 January 2012, 22:12
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Nitrogen is an Ideal gas for sponsons
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Naughty man!
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28 January 2012, 22:12
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Originally Posted by mister p
Does anybody use Nitrogen to fill tubes from empty? This would and does make pressure changes due to heat/cold null and void.
Assuming tube material to be non-reactive to Nitrogen. In emergencies air can be added with no adverse effects.
Seems a good idea to me as long as there's a regulator and no leakage.
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It's good in your defender tyres mr p.
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28 January 2012, 22:14
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I used to use a common mix with 79% Nitrogen in mine. It caused no problems with the tubes but I did notice some expansion in sunlight.
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willk, in my excitement at my new invention of Nitrogen I sped read your maths and it's caused a headache. Oh how my head hurts. Now I see the light. I thought you'd only filled your lung tubes 79% and was going to say that was why they had expanded so much. Have you tried Nitrogen in your sponsons?
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28 January 2012, 22:23
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It's good in your defender tyres mr p.
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I once had a Defender,
And kept it on the fens,
Now all I have is my tyres,
Because of those damned oxygens.
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28 January 2012, 22:25
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Isn't the major benefit of using nitrogen over atmospheric air is that the nitrogen will have a lot less moisture, which is the major factor in heat related pressure change.
Perhaps another line of enquiry should be "Has anyone use silica gel sachets in their tubes?'
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28 January 2012, 22:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mister p
......is it commonly used?
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i fink diffrent ribb bilders yewse diffrent gasses
i fink ribiye mus yewse nitrus okside cuz evverboddy laffs att dem
umber yewse oksyasetyleen sow yew cann weldd de fkin a frayme wen itt brakes
de rlni yewse 50 pir sent oksyjen 50 pir snet nitrus okside sow yew cann av sum payn releef wen ther dryvin givs yew a badd bakk
neel homes, werld champiun bote raicer, fatt bastud an orl rownd gud eg yewses heelium wich iz probubly wy hee speeks inn a sweeky voyce
wiLlfish
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28 January 2012, 22:33
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Or BOUNTY tissues
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28 January 2012, 22:46
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Originally Posted by wiLlfish
i fink diffrent ribb bilders yewse diffrent gasses
i fink ribiye mus yewse nitrus okside cuz evverboddy laffs att dem
umber yewse oksyasetyleen sow yew cann weldd de fkin a frayme wen itt brakes
de rlni yewse 50 pir sent oksyjen 50 pir snet nitrus okside sow yew cann av sum payn releef wen ther dryvin givs yew a badd bakk
neel homes, werld champiun bote raicer, fatt bastud an orl rownd gud eg yewses heelium wich iz probubly wy hee speeks inn a sweeky voyce
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Air-Craft use helium
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28 January 2012, 22:51
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Air-Craft use helium
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...not mustard gas then, me old sausage?
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28 January 2012, 22:55
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...not mustard gas then, me old sausage?
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Mustard is too hot, it was on the Zep menu
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