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13 August 2011, 19:09
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Originally Posted by kerny
I think it was hadd's Fred Perry polo shirt, Nike baseball cap and K Swiss trainers with the JD labels still on them that did it.
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innit! an' not the 24 empty Stella bottles wot he brung like?
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13 August 2011, 19:15
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Originally Posted by willk
innit! an' not the 24 empty Stella bottles wot he brung like?
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He got them filled at the Asian garage down the road.
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13 August 2011, 19:19
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Originally Posted by kerny
He already filled them at the Asian garage down the road.
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Musta been approved COBRA beer so...
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13 August 2011, 19:31
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Originally Posted by willk
Musta been approved COBRA beer so...
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...they said he could have some old turbans to pak inside em for the price of a tinder,,loo
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13 August 2011, 20:17
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I've heard of this from friends who race motocross. I've never had a problem even at tescos garage but I put the tank it the back of the pick up and leave it in there when filling it so it may look like I'm filling the truck up.
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13 August 2011, 20:52
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I think people are mixing up two issues here.
(1) there are restrictions on buying fuel in greater than 5L (plastic cans) or 10L (metal cans) which apply to most (or possibly all!) filling stations - as per their petroleum spirit license. Some places enforce this rule stricter than others - and if you search ribnet you will find suggestions how to overcome this (e.g. fill car first, pick pump not as visible from window, fill at back of car, or point out they are portable tanks not cans if you want a look of total confusion!).
(2) Garage owners have been asked (by the government) not to sell fuel in cans to anyone looking suspicious as part of its response to the riots. A number of garages have taken a "no fuel in cans" blanket ban approach. You presumably will look less suspicious if you are filling a boat/have the boat with you.
Fenlander -- I think you will find less of a problem in Scotland (as it rains too much for people to congregate and riot!). The more rural the filling station then generally the less likely they are to be bothered by (1) either! Closer to the water also means they will be more experienced with the issue. I don't want to do the local garages out of business but you should be aware that the more rural the more expensive (even worse than motorway services!).
Martin -- I don't know what the law is in the CI's but any business over here can refuse to serve anyone for any reason. Trading standards will likely tell you to go away - or indeed highlight (1) above - making it harder to get sensible amounts of fuel once the riots are just a memory.
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13 August 2011, 20:55
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Originally Posted by Polwart
Martin -- I don't know what the law is in the CI's but any business over here can refuse to serve anyone for any reason.
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Over here one has to serve Gippos...
I mean, Members of the Travelling Community.
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13 August 2011, 21:46
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One of the stations (I think it was a Shell) in the Fife/Lothian area definitely had notices up this week stating no fuel was to be dispensed into containers. I just assumed it was in case someone decided to buy 5l and send it down south by courier
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14 August 2011, 01:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerny
I think it was hadd's Fred Perry polo shirt, Nike baseball cap and K Swiss trainers with the JD labels still on them that did it.
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malakia
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24 August 2011, 22:08
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Probably to do with you being in Tyldesley. No probs doing it here.
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I agree, it's defo you being from Tyldesley.
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24 August 2011, 22:17
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our local Filling station has had a sign up saying no fuel in cans ,when i asked him he said its ok if you are in a car, its if you turn up on foot with can in hand he wont sell it .
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25 August 2011, 07:44
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Originally Posted by m chappelow
our local Filling station has had a sign up saying no fuel in cans ,when i asked him he said its ok if you are in a car, its if you turn up on foot with can in hand he wont sell it .
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Ah, rioters don't have cars and people who run out of fuel are nothing but trouble anyway - I like his thinking.
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25 August 2011, 12:50
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I would call your local Trading Standards lot on Monday. You are being refused supply of goods that are to be used for lawful purpose.
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they don't have to sell you anything! any offer is an "offer to treat" and there is no contract til you make the offer and they accept. Bit like the diamond ring mistakenly in the shop window for £5 instead of £5,000. You wanna buy and they simply withdraw it from sale. The urban myth of demanding they sell it is just that-a myth...or was it a moth?
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25 August 2011, 12:57
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Originally Posted by wavelength
The urban myth of demanding they sell it is just that-a myth...or was it a moth?
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I was more thinking that it was a discriminatory breach, rather than full on illegal. I would hope that a quiet word from some bloke from the council would restore momentary common sense to the vendor.
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25 August 2011, 14:11
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ASDA is good
ASDA is good as not staffed.
Filled 3 x 25 litre cans this week.
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25 August 2011, 14:35
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I would hope that a quiet word from some bloke from the council would restore momentary common sense to the vendor
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surely not! Far beyond their authority and you would have codprawn back on here ranting about the trading standards stazi again! As always the easiest way is keep you head down, fill portable tanks without making it obvious and perhaps pay at t'pump I'm sure the poor s*d at the desk doesn't really want to get involved if it can be helped-but then again their job is on the line if they buck company policy so don't give 'em a hard time eh.
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30 August 2011, 10:40
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Thankfully the small village filling station along Loch Duich had no grumbles after I asked first.
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16 September 2011, 12:52
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Filled a 22 lt fuel tank from the rib ( placed in car boot ) this morning at my local Tesco, a Tesco staff member standing at pump behind me putting sand over a fuel spillage.........no problem just a big...... .... from her.
I assume its because petrol is never used over here in riots/petrol bombs....
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16 September 2011, 13:28
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I assume its because petrol is never used over here in riots/petrol bombs....
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Curious , What do they use In "PETROL" Bombs there then !
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16 September 2011, 18:17
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See http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/kent/factsheets/FS40NEW%20nov07%20petrolhome.pdf for Kent CC advice on petrol in containers.
It would seem from this that there is an assumed difference between a petrol container/can and a (portable) petrol tank.
From a safety viewpoint where do people store there boats/unused fuel when on dry land - is there an issue in putting it in a garage, does the fire service need to be informed?
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