Noobie with new boat, a few niggles and loads of questions :-)

[JakeT]

oh and Mollers when you say you had a mate who was storing Tinsel in his shed was it Simon at Red-Ensign, or the engineer who did work on the boat, or neither? Seems like a small world out there in RIB land!

[willk]

Originally Posted by JakeT

Seems like a small world out there in RIB land!

You can say that again. Recently I found myself in (long distance) conversation with a well known (ex BRP) engineer in a certain Welsh RIB company. Turned out he had actually worked on my engines previously and knew the last owner.

[Poly]

Originally Posted by JakeT

Thanks Polwart I'll get my multimeter out and try to trace the fault. The tacho is combined with the engine oil warning lamps and the trim level, all on the same gauge so I gues there'll be signal wires for each of these bits. There is power to the unit but the LCD display is scrambled so I suspect the whole unit is U/S. Is there a good place to get S/H ones? Have heard on here new ones are bit pricey.

mmm doesn't sound good.

Yes I guess you'll have multiple wires for multiple params - I assumed you had a nice traditional gauge with a needle - I think these are interchangable with the basic digital ones though. I think that the "signal" wire on Yam tacho's is green (but my memory is rusty)

In terms of second hand unless someone can show you it working I'd be wary. If you were happy to take a standard tacho (no warning lights or trim gauge) you could get one for about 40-50 quid (eg. teleflex 'fits anything'). Not sure if trim gauges are just as simple? You could wire separate warning lights if you wanted them. Otherwise you might be looking at the wrongside of £300 to get a pair of new all singing all dancing digital tachos.

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by JakeT

oh and Mollers when you say you had a mate who was storing Tinsel in his shed was it Simon at Red-Ensign, or the engineer who did work on the boat, or neither? Seems like a small world out there in RIB land!

Red Ensign are purely brokers, It was in a building a pal of mine managed over the winter. Who did work on it and what did they do?

[JakeT]

engines were meant to have been serviced and tilt motor on one replaced. Though, the impeller on one of then defo needs replacing as telltale is weaker than a gnats pee! Whilst I mention it, would it be easy for me to replace an impeller myself?

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by JakeT

engines were meant to have been serviced and tilt motor on one replaced. Though, the impeller on one of then defo needs replacing as telltale is weaker than a gnats pee! Whilst I mention it, would it be easy for me to replace an impeller myself?

Who supposedly did the work?

Robin Curnow is the Yam agent here.

[JakeT]

don't know I'm afraid. Apparently he did all the work on the boat for the estate agent that owened it. Don't think it was Robin Curnow, more likely soemone doing work for him as a foreigner. There was work needed doing on trailer as said previously and this "engineer" didn't want to touch it as he knew the boat owner and it was a liability issue! Whatever that means?!

[Mollers]

I'm gonna be really blunt now. I reckon you've paid too much for a boat that's not in a safe, seaworthy condition on a non-roadworthy trailer. It needs a load of money spending on it and it already owes you too much. Sorry.

[JakeT]

Oh dear! this isn't good. I don't think the boat is in that bad a way though. I am happy to do a fair bit of work on it, it's all part of the fun! I searched the internet high and low for two months before buying the boat and it was far and away the best value for money of the ones I saw. The only other near contender was a humber ocean pro with a 150 at 9950 but it was in Jersey, vat was not paid and the trailer was a single axle unbraked trailer. It is cheaper than all the camel ribtecs on the market and...

this: http://www.boatshop24.co.uk/NzMwNzJ+...c_585_600.html
this: http://www.boatshop24.co.uk/ZndvMTkz...IBTEC_655.html

unless there is something you know about this boat which makes it unsafe and unseaworthy which I don't know about. Is there? The road trailer is now fully restored. The engines run well, albeit they need fuel! and the electronics need repairing / replacing but they were getting old anyway and could do with something more 2010 than 1996. I couldn't afford a nice new RIB at £30K so had to compromise somewhere. Like lots of people on here say, a boat is a hole in the water...

[markg]

Originally Posted by JakeT

It was bought from an Estate agent, like you say, nuff said. came with Brenderup road trailer but had to spend close to £1250 with Tyrone Snell to replace most of the running gear on it. not been looked after very well :-(

what did they do for that price? i have had new brake shoes on 2 twin axle trailers just recently and both were considerably less than that

[JakeT]

1 axle set of brake shoes 33.44
4 brake springs @ £4.18 16.72
2 sealed bearings @ £34.98 69.96
1 hub cap 4.50
2 bowden brake cables @ £12.62 25.24
1 jockey wheel 35.89
1 Avonride coupling 178.61
1 winch strap 12.32
1 light bar 60.00
1 lighting board 31.13
7 pin plug 2.73
4 155R13C 6 ply wheels and tyres @ £50.33 201.32 671.86 + VAT

Labour 13 hours to date @ £32
Less 15% discount 353.60 + VAT

TOTAL to date including VAT £1,204.92

[markg]

it takes me about half an hour per wheel to do brakes and bearings and refit the wheel, 13 hours is about 50% too much for that job and i dont do it every day and have a workshop setup for it like they do

[Mollers]

Basically, you've bought a project, but payed too much for it. If the boat was in 'ready to go' condition, what you paid was about right. But it's not. It now owes you £10k, you could easily sink another £2-3k into it making it right, which puts you up to £12-13k. For that sort of money, you should be owning a boat a lot newer than the one you have.

[bingomike]

Originally Posted by JakeT

1 axle set of brake shoes 33.44
4 brake springs @ £4.18 16.72
2 sealed bearings @ £34.98 69.96
1 hub cap 4.50
2 bowden brake cables @ £12.62 25.24
1 jockey wheel 35.89
1 Avonride coupling 178.61
1 winch strap 12.32
1 light bar 60.00
1 lighting board 31.13
7 pin plug 2.73
4 155R13C 6 ply wheels and tyres @ £50.33 201.32 671.86 + VAT

Labour 13 hours to date @ £32
Less 15% discount 353.60 + VAT

TOTAL to date including VAT £1,204.92

Seems a lot of money for little work...
Another couple of hundred would buy you new Alli trailer!! - 5 year warranty too..

Mike

[martini]

Originally Posted by JakeT

The only other near contender was a humber ocean pro with a 150 at 9950 but it was in Jersey

Apologies to the owner (although I think it's now sold) but this wasn't a "turn the key and off you go" type of deal either so don't lose any sleep over it.