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03 September 2020, 10:01
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Cardiff
Length: no boat
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Originally Posted by paulbrown22
You've got a definite advantage then - I think a few minutes observation at most slipways would demonstrate not everyone has the same ability, even on much smaller trailers!
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Small trailers are hard work you can’t see them and once you do they have gone a longer wider trailer is more easily controlled twin axles especially move more gently I do most of my launching with a tractor and the longer boat trailer are much easier to manage on the beach, the carpark gets more interesting as inconsiderate muppets like to park so close to the slip that you risk taking their doors out with prop as you turn
The what do I do once the boat is the water issue is the same with any length vessel best technique wins and extra pair of hands always helps (or should that be feet?)
As for getting on and off trailer that’s what the motor and winch are for
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03 September 2020, 10:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,165
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Originally Posted by willk
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Hey - I'm sure Highfield could SPRAY a Honda engine in Mariner Silver to keep him happy.
TBH, I'm not sure what the problem with Honda is - they're a GREAT trolling engine...
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Maybe get it sprayed up in Candy Floss pink & add one of these
https://www.clyde-outboard-services....l-switch-kit-2
It would tick all the boxes then......
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03 September 2020, 10:58
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Colchester
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 3,106
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
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I take it you dont like Honda outboards also
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03 September 2020, 11:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,165
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Originally Posted by smallribber
I take it you dont like Honda outboards also
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Not a fan, saying that, I wouldn’t clear the compost heap to make room for a Highfield either.
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03 September 2020, 11:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: suffolk
Boat name: not yet
Make: Gemini + XS
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140/merc 60
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,297
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
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Wasn,t it a candy floss pink one that finished the round ireland challenge in difficult conditions a few years ago ?
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03 September 2020, 11:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Colchester
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Sep 2016
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Not a fan, saying that, I wouldn’t clear the compost heap to make room for a Highfield either.
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You could however move that old black tractor out of the way to make space for a nice Highfield
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03 September 2020, 22:01
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,627
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Originally Posted by HDAV
Im after a 5m ish rib with SXS console and towable without need a B+E and options are limited if I had the budget the highfield would probably be on my shortlist I think I would prefer a grey motor but as long as it isn’t white I’d be happy!
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If you had 20k presumably 400 quid to get the B+E would not be a Big issue - so then your choice of boat would no longer be constrained by weight?
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03 September 2020, 22:07
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
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Originally Posted by jakew009
Well yes but the point was a big boat or a small boat makes very little difference to getting it on/off the trailer.
If you’ve got to park the car you either need somewhere to tie up or someone to hold the boat.
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There are some slipways where there is nowhere to tie up a very big boat, or indeed any boat, and some beaches where gently beaching a wee boat is a sensible thing for a one man operation (either whilst sorting trailers or having lunch), and if the person is then left holding the boat (rather than it being tied up) a big boat requires greater strength in unpleasant conditions and greater depth.
However for me the time wee boats win out over big boats is when you need to move them around at home/boatyard without the luxury of a tow bar to do the pushing, manouvering. If you have farmyard space that may not be evident, if you have to squeeze it in some gravel down the side of your house, or between a couple of other boats in a big shed with no space for a car suddenly size matters especially if alone.
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03 September 2020, 23:10
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Cardiff
Length: no boat
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Originally Posted by Poly
If you had 20k presumably 400 quid to get the B+E would not be a Big issue - so then your choice of boat would no longer be constrained by weight?
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Well first you have to pass it, then your the only driver, then you have the car tow capacity and future car capacity so dedicated towcar etc etc etc
Annoying thing is old car was lighter with smaller towing capacity ..... but more “useable” Towing capacity Without a B+E and could have more easily got the boat legally yet arguably less safely
Current Car MAM is 2485kg so gives me a gross trailer weight of 1015kg to stay outside B+E gross train weight for car is 4285kg....
Old car MAM was 2100kg but meant I could have a trailer weight of 1400kg
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04 September 2020, 13:31
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HDAV
Well first you have to pass it,
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well I quoted the sort of price people through around with instruction. I've not heard of (perhaps nobody admits!) anyone failing the test after instruction.
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then your the only driver,
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or you could both do it, or I presume the other half could drive with L plates whilst you supervise. In my experience, even when two people hold the relevant license very rarely do they both use it for towing, unless they are both very enthusiastic about the activity - in which case they'll both do the training/test.
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then you have the car tow capacity and future car capacity so dedicated towcar etc etc etc
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But you've just described how your vehicle choice/use is already being dictated by not having the license.
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04 September 2020, 19:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Bluefin
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150hp
MMSI: Ex Directory
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 347
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
TBH, I'm not sure what the problem with Honda is - they're a GREAT trolling engine...
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anybody who thinks Highfield ticks any of the right boxes would probably have great difficulty in choosing the right engine :
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04 September 2020, 21:06
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Cardiff
Length: no boat
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
But you've just described how your vehicle choice/use is already being dictated by not having the license.
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Vehicle was chosen some time ago and changing isn’t an option, well not changing and buying a boat......
Just seems daft that I can tow a larger trailer but only if a buy a smaller car......
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05 September 2020, 20:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: suffolk
Boat name: not yet
Make: Gemini + XS
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140/merc 60
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,297
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smallribber
I think for a light Rib that can handle most conditions and can also easily accommodate a small to average family but also be excellent as a boat a single person can easily manage. I think the new Highfield Ocean Master 4.6 is the one I would go for if I ever bought new
https://www.highfieldboats.com/ocean-master-460/
Just get rid of the Honda and put a Mercury or Mariner 80 HP M on the back and a nice roller trailer for Extreme and you would have a lovely set up
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Looks like your Lucky Day !
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rib-boat-...0AAOSwz6ZfU1iI
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06 September 2020, 07:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Colchester
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 3,106
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gpsguru
anybody who thinks Highfield ticks any of the right boxes would probably have great difficulty in choosing the right engine :
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You are way behind the times my friend. Have a little surf around
I just checked your profile and see that you are a tractor driver to boot
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06 September 2020, 07:41
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#35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Colchester
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Sep 2016
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Originally Posted by Orwell boy
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That looks a very good set up and I could live with the evinrude.
And as there are no new ones in the Country at the moment. !!!!!!!!!
Be interesting to see what it makes particularly at this time of year
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06 September 2020, 14:32
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#36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Bluefin
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150hp
MMSI: Ex Directory
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 347
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smallribber
You are way behind the times my friend. Have a little surf around
I just checked your profile and see that you are a tractor driver to boot
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Yeah, much safer with a fast tractor of known pedigree, than just trying to look the part in a tarts handbag
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07 September 2020, 05:50
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#37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Colchester
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 3,106
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gpsguru
Yeah, much safer with a fast tractor of known pedigree, than just trying to look the part in a tarts handbag
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I am sure you will convince yourself if you keep saying it
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