View Poll Results: Has willk "wound you up"?
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17 December 2013, 19:00
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by willk
I wonder would SPR do a RIBnet Special?
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where do that come from !
I am SeaSafe Service agent - I bundle the LJ to go there holidays to them and they service them and bill the customer direct ....
What make of refill kits you looking for I will see what the cost is, postage to Ireland might be of issue though - compressed air they no likely and you will find you hammer will be loctited on to fire mech.
S.
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17 December 2013, 19:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
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willk just buy some decent L J's then the cost of rearming kit won't be an issue yer tight git
are you sure your not part Yorky
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17 December 2013, 19:09
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#23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,767
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Buy expensive lifejackets, makes 'em worth servicing/re-arming
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That sounds like Woman's shopping logic... you know where they go out in the January Sales, spend £500 and tell you they saved £300... yet they bout £500 worth of stuff they didn't actually need...
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17 December 2013, 19:23
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Pickey Dave ( ) and Kerny have raised a topic that I have been thinking about. Life jacket cost V Life jacket Quality.
As I see it, once you have checked the boxes for usage and fit, they're all ISO or EN rated life jackets and should do their job (which is to float you face up etc).
It's Hazard and Risk.
The Hazard is falling in.
The Risk is drowning.
Wearing ANY LJ reduces the risk.
Wearing any 150N Auto reduces a very great deal of the risk.
Will wearing a £300 150N jacket reduce it further? - a bit perhaps, but I suspect very little...
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17 December 2013, 19:25
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SPR
and you will find you hammer will be loctited on to fire mech. .
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What does this mean?
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17 December 2013, 19:27
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,066
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
What does this mean?
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I meant the cylinder is usually loctited (glued) in the hammar type life jackets - so the kit is usually both bits!
S.
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17 December 2013, 19:33
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SPR
I meant the cylinder is usually loctited (glued) in the hammar type life jackets - so the kit is usually both bits!
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Thanks - that prolly explains why my cylinders were never loose!
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17 December 2013, 19:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Will wearing a £300 150N jacket reduce it further? - a bit perhaps, but I suspect very little...
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You don't need to spend 300 quid, I use one of these and they are good quality very unrestrictive and the complete rearming kits are about 25 quid.
Crewsaver Crewfit 190N plus c/w with integral harness Life Jacket with exrtas | eBay
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17 December 2013, 19:42
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Country: Ireland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerny
You don't need to spend 300 quid, I use one of these and they are good quality very unrestrictive and the complete rearming kits are about 25 quid.
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Yes, those ARE nice but I'm looking at 150N. I'm also wondering about the harnesses. You pay for a harness that gives you a tricky closure (for non-boaters) so I end up helping landlubbers and newbies put their jacket on. The non-harness types have a snap buckle and tightener that any fool can use. The more expensive jackets don't have that...
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17 December 2013, 19:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,551
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If you're not going to clip yourself to a boat (which I think we as ribnobbers won't be doing) do you need a harness version?
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17 December 2013, 19:51
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterM
If you're not going to clip yourself to a boat (which I think we as ribnobbers won't be doing) do you need a harness version?
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They do that particular model without harness and its cheaper
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17 December 2013, 19:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterM
If you're not going to clip yourself to a boat (which I think we as ribnobbers won't be doing) do you need a harness version?
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My thoughts exactly.
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17 December 2013, 19:54
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Country: UK - England
Length: 3m +
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Marine mega store would do you a hammar and cylinder for ~£30. Or a hammar alone for £20.
Do you need someone else to test or do you check cylinder if its a bit light pull the handle and top up with a touch of air from a compressor via the mouth piece. then leave 24hours and check still rigid.
If the cylinder is OK then use the mouth piece to inflate via a compressor...
If they are unused then even if they are only £45 you might only be looking at £20 to "recharge" them so 50% saving...
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17 December 2013, 19:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerny
They do that particular model without harness and its cheaper
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That's what I've got :-)...it's been replaced by a new design now .
I still carry my older ones as spares if I think I may find a bod who needs one. Or I strap one on and jump in for practice...AJ had the pics!.
I'd suggest jumping in wearing one is worth the cost of a new cylinder etc especially if not done the sea survival course bit :-)
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17 December 2013, 20:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Carpe Diem
Make: Ribeye 650S
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F150
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 548
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Originally Posted by kerny
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Kerny, is this not the life jacket you were disappointed with the quality of it when it arrived? (sure I saw a separate thread on this?)
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17 December 2013, 20:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Exmouth, Devon
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 767
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
Marine mega store . . . mmmm
Do you need someone else to test or do you check cylinder if its a bit light pull the handle and top up with a touch of air from a compressor via the mouth piece. then leave 24hours and check still rigid.
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I wouldn't use a compressor line anywhere near a lifejacket. Best to use a low-pressure pump - manual bike pump would do it.
The other critical aspect is to inspect the lifejacket carefully around seams and folds as these are the likely failure points.
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17 December 2013, 20:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Length: 3m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeCC
I wouldn't use a compressor line anywhere near a lifejacket. Best to use a low-pressure pump - manual bike pump would do it.
The other critical aspect is to inspect the lifejacket carefully around seams and folds as these are the likely failure points.
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Sorry wasn't thinking high powered air tool job, was thinking of my rattly car tyre one that runs off 12V and takes about 3 days to pump up a car tyre...
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17 December 2013, 20:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whackywoody
Kerny, is this not the life jacket you were disappointed with the quality of it when it arrived? (sure I saw a separate thread on this?)
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No if I remember rightly the thread was about life jackets in general. Mainly the thickness of the bladders.
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17 December 2013, 20:51
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Weak bladder Kerny? (I'm assuming you've already voted )
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17 December 2013, 21:02
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
MMSI: ex directory!!
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 6,203
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Weak bladder Kerny? (I'm assuming you've already voted )
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I think you get pills for that!!
Sent from my iPhone using Rib.net
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