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14 April 2013, 23:41
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Think even on a bone dry deck any salt particles even dried residue would still conduct the leckky through a person .
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15 April 2013, 05:36
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Apparently not from a direct strike j. because fiberglass is such a good insulator, if struck, the charge will look for something else to find earth. i.e. a person.
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Well, unless you are standing in water (a bone dry deck in a thunderstorm?) or touching anything that is earthed - like anything joined to the engine...
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If lightning strikes the boat, the shortest route to earth isn't going to be through a person, unless he's dangling his leg over the side. If it strikes the person, that's another matter. Just make sure you're not the highest point on the boat. Wot you need is a nice big lightning conductor "A" frame
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15 April 2013, 08:27
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Wot you need is a Faraday cage. A cabin ali rib would fit the bill nicely.
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15 April 2013, 09:28
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Has anyone thought of asking the coastguard or similar if anyone has been hit by lightning in a small boat?
If not, you are probably OK.
Just a thought.
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15 April 2013, 09:44
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Being all technical. Isn't there a positive charge that emanates upwards from the earth that on meeting a negative one from the heavens enables the electrical current earth out? If so, you just try to eliminate the upward charge. If your RIB is a poor insulator then your chances of being hit are much less.
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15 April 2013, 09:56
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20TH April looming makeing Kerney feel Nostalgic??  ... I would'nt worry about The 'BLITZ' ...I mean 'LIGHTNING' too much Mate..just get the Hell outta Dodge !! ONE of the safety features of a RIB..A good Turn of speed! 
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15 April 2013, 10:52
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Has anyone thought of asking the coastguard or similar if anyone has been hit by lightning in a small boat?
If not, you are probably OK.
Just a thought.
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Lightning strikes on "small" boats DO happen. I suspect much more common in other parts of the world than UK though. Add to that the liklihood of being out in such weather and that ribs are probably less likely to get hit than yachts and its certainly not something I worry about.
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Being all technical. Isn't there a positive charge that emanates upwards from the earth that on meeting a negative one from the heavens enables the electrical current earth out? If so, you just try to eliminate the upward charge. If your RIB is a poor insulator then your chances of being hit are much less.
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IIRC it depends on the type of lightning?
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15 April 2013, 10:55
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Yes. When I've seen lightning hitting the sea near me, I've become very conscious of the fact that I'm sitting astride eighty litres of petrol. 
That's always focussed my mind and I've run like hell, WOT, in the other direction.
A wet fibreglass boat will not insulate you from any lightning strike.
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15 April 2013, 11:29
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That's always focussed my mind and I've run like hell, WOT, in the other direction.
A wet fibreglass boat will not insulate you from any lightning strike.
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Lighting can strike many miles from the storm cloud.
Maybe Poly is correct by suggesting hanging a chain from the A frame into the sea. Better than nothing
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15 April 2013, 11:36
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20TH April looming makeing Kerney feel Nostalgic?? ... I would'nt worry about The 'BLITZ' ...I mean 'LIGHTNING' too much Mate..just get the Hell outta Dodge !! ONE of the safety features of a RIB..A good Turn of speed!
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If you are referring to St Georges day Matt its actually the 23 of April mate 
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15 April 2013, 17:15
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Typical I can't find the article I was reading, I think that it was the US coastguard that says more deaths were caused by small open fiberglass/wooden boats than the larger metal boats.
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That makes sense on a couple of levels, the most obvious being that larger metal boats have the passenger area covered. Also, on a larger boat that is struck, there is a larger chance of someone being left in a condition to summon aid.
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True, but the further you are from the storm center, the further you are from danger (not saying you're safe, but diminishing odds of being hit would still be preferable.)
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15 April 2013, 17:24
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Lightning strikes on "small" boats DO happen. I suspect much more common in other parts of the world than UK though. Add to that the liklihood of being out in such weather and that ribs are probably less likely to get hit than yachts and its certainly not something I worry about.
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It does hit boats, I've seen it!
My friend and I were about 200ft away from a sailing boat at low water, bait digging. It was raining, but it didn't look as though it was going to Thunder and Lightning. Without warning the lightning hit the mast of the Yacht, before we had time to react the thunder hit us. You never saw 2 men running so fast with fork in one hand and bucket in the other. Yacht looked okay when we got back to the car and looked back. It's an experience I wouldn't want again and one I will never forget.
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15 April 2013, 17:29
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Lighting can strike many miles from the storm cloud.
Maybe Poly is correct by suggesting hanging a chain from the A frame into the sea. Better than nothing |
Wikipedia man is always right
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15 April 2013, 17:57
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Nope....  Surley....
Oh.. And DOES...ANYONE Actuley KNOW!! SOMEONE struck by Lightning in A BOAT!???...(And NOT THE BOAT)..
Or a Meteor...Or Football sized Hail Stones....Or Even Alien Space Debris?/Death Ray ???
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What about if you jump up and down to the tune of AC-DC...thunderstruck....50/50 whether you get hit or not!the higher u jump the less chance you have!
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15 April 2013, 18:11
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What about if you jump up and down to the tune of AC-DC...thunderstruck....50/50 whether you get hit or not!the higher u jump the less chance you have!
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Great song matt pity you took the Cardiff bay videos off utube
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So the moral of todays story is... If its stormy with lightning forcast then turn up the radio!
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15 April 2013, 18:13
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Is it off? They were not my videos anyways tony!
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Nope.... Surley....
Oh.. And DOES...ANYONE Actuley KNOW!! SOMEONE struck by Lightning in A BOAT!???...(And NOT THE BOAT)..
Or a Meteor...Or Football sized Hail Stones....Or Even Alien Space Debris?/Death Ray ??? |
I know some one who got struck by a football in a rib does that count
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15 April 2013, 18:18
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Yes Matt i was not able to view it last time i looked .. as a matter of fact after watching that video i went out and brought a Rib ...thanks mate
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