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12 April 2015, 21:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,021
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Originally Posted by Xk59D
Chris,
is the steering electric or motor driven hydraulic? i wonder how it will hold up in say 5 years of use...i.e outside of warranty.
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its electric. I guess only time will tell. It certainly does the job at the moment...
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12 April 2015, 22:10
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,957
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Originally Posted by Xk59D
Chris,
is the steering electric or motor driven hydraulic? i wonder how it will hold up in say 5 years of use...i.e outside of warranty.
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Fortunately it has a 5 year warranty including corrosion damage unlike many other manufacturers. And of course it only needs servicing every 5 years or 500 hours...
Only wish I could have gone down to see it today, I think it looks an absolutely fantastic boat. A great mix between the leisure boats that are becoming so popular these days and yet the hard core offshore pedigree of the Osprey hull and fittings. Little surprised by the Ullmans rather than Scotseats; I was under the impression they continue to be more expensive and from the accounts I've had from people who've tried both there really is no comparison....
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12 April 2015, 22:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,021
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Originally Posted by gotchiguy
Little surprised by the Ullmans rather than Scotseats; I was under the impression they continue to be more expensive and from the accounts I've had from people who've tried both there really is no comparison....
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Paul Lemmer might disagree with you on that...
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12 April 2015, 22:40
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,957
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Originally Posted by Chris
Paul Lemmer might disagree with you on that...
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Now's your turn whisper..... .
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12 April 2015, 22:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy
Now's your turn whisper..... .
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To avoid confusion.... Tried both. Preferred Ullman.
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13 April 2015, 08:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,306
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Originally Posted by Chris
To avoid confusion.... Tried both. Preferred Ullman.
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Me too!
Like Gochi says..and IMO too....no comparison
I think new Osprey Boys Chris and Guy have already in the short time at the Helm showed some interesting ideas and that they're serious about moving the Brand forward!
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13 April 2015, 09:16
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
MMSI: 235076954
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,940
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Originally Posted by Xk59D
not a fan of the rest of it i'm afraid. i guess it is not aimed at the practical boaters market. i.e lack of storage/seating and can't put an aux on the transom. i assume it is more of a drystack toy, which it will probably end up anyway i guess.
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What a load of rubbish.
It is not often that I am moved to such extreme statements, but twaddle like this cannot go uncontested.
Osprey as a brand is probably one of the least "drystack toy" brands out there. It is a very deep V design giving a 'soft' ride to deal with real sea conditions. In the 6.5 metre category I tried most brands when going for Osprey and each had its compromises - no surprises there. The compromise with the Osprey hull - it has such a deep V and substantial build that it is not the fastest, so it does not win the numbers game.
But it is forgiving. I have yet to experience any semblance of hooking for instance, and believe me, I and others (well one ribnetter in particular I could name) have pushed my boat hard in 'power on' turns with tubes in the water, with no sign of bad behaviour.
I do not know what Chris is offering these days, it has been quite some time since we have been in touch, but when I bought mine it could be configured for whatever storage space or seating configuration you needed. Mine has removeable rear jockeys to give more deck space when I need it for example.
I must admit to some confusion though, why do you state that an auxiliary cannot be mounted? Have I missed something on this new boat, 'cos I know of other owners that have used an auxiliary on slightly older Ospreys.
For years Osprey was known as THE brand favoured by divers, the sort of people that sling weight belts and cylinders around the boat (bin there, seen that!). There was a reason why Osprey were so popular with these unforgiving users, and as far as I am concerned, that reputation is untarnished
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13 April 2015, 09:32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 7,866
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian M
(well one ribnetter in particular I could name) have pushed my boat hard in 'power on' turns with tubes in the water, with no sign of bad behaviour.
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I wonder who that was
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Looks Slow but is Fast
Member of the ebay Blue RIB cover club.
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13 April 2015, 09:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 7,866
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xk59D
cracking looking hull/tubes. osprey do make the nicest looking hull/tube combos imo.
not a fan of the rest of it i'm afraid. i guess it is not aimed at the practical boaters market. i.e lack of storage/seating and can't put an aux on the transom. i assume it is more of a drystack toy, which it will probably end up anyway i guess.
however, curious what the engine is like if you have any comments?
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This is a demo RIB. To be fair to Osprey, talk to them about personal layout options if you're interested, it's impossible to showcase all the options on one boat.
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Looks Slow but is Fast
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13 April 2015, 09:51
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: West Sussex
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,872
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Chris,
For sure a very nice looking rib but what I like most is the console and this is the only one after our Neptune console where you actually sit in it and not just ones bum is sitting on the edge of a so called seat. Like our Neptune your console gives very good back and side support. The console is nice and high and the height is dictated by the knee height of the person sitting in the seat. I have specially used the word "sitting in" because that is what he is doing "sitting in".
a high console also gives the crew excellent protection from the elements
Well done and perhaps you may think about adding some grab handles on the side and a grab handle around the windscreen would do no harm.
I have attached a photo of our Neptune console on Nauti Buoy. I have the very same on Never Enough
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13 April 2015, 11:33
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,934
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian M
What a load of rubbish.
It is not often that I am moved to such extreme statements, but twaddle like this cannot go uncontested.
Osprey as a brand is probably one of the least "drystack toy" brands out there. It is a very deep V design giving a 'soft' ride to deal with real sea conditions. In the 6.5 metre category I tried most brands when going for Osprey and each had its compromises - no surprises there. The compromise with the Osprey hull - it has such a deep V and substantial build that it is not the fastest, so it does not win the numbers game.
But it is forgiving. I have yet to experience any semblance of hooking for instance, and believe me, I and others (well one ribnetter in particular I could name) have pushed my boat hard in 'power on' turns with tubes in the water, with no sign of bad behaviour.
I do not know what Chris is offering these days, it has been quite some time since we have been in touch, but when I bought mine it could be configured for whatever storage space or seating configuration you needed. Mine has removeable rear jockeys to give more deck space when I need it for example.
I must admit to some confusion though, why do you state that an auxiliary cannot be mounted? Have I missed something on this new boat, 'cos I know of other owners that have used an auxiliary on slightly older Ospreys.
For years Osprey was known as THE brand favoured by divers, the sort of people that sling weight belts and cylinders around the boat (bin there, seen that!). There was a reason why Osprey were so popular with these unforgiving users, and as far as I am concerned, that reputation is untarnished
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Ouch, hit a nerve me thinks.
Please re read what I wrote, never questioned the pedigree of the hull etc. Just said THAT layout isn't for everyday use in the UK, which is why it will end up as a toy for someone on a stack or in the med.
Cheers
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13 April 2015, 12:45
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#32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
MMSI: 235076954
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Fair enough, no particular nerve hit, and I have no connection with the selling of Ospreys, just a satisfied owner.
I have re-read your post and cannot find your explicit reference to the layout, but I'll take your comment as I think it is intended. As Andy said, all options cannot be included on one demonstrator, but I think Chris has done well with that one boat.
Why do you think an auxiliary is not possible?
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Dust creation specialist
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13 April 2015, 12:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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Each to their own, but a softy, leisure fit out of a Vipermax doesn't sit too well with me.
Kinda like dropping a Maybach body on a Defender chassis. Why not buy a Maybach or a Defender?
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13 April 2015, 13:12
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,910
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Decent console, two Ullmans, two pods, useful A-frame (actually, it IS a good A-frame*) sombre colours. Other than a wee suicide seat, where's the Leisure?
The thread hijacker is right however - the suicide seat needs handholds.
* I like the A-frame. It allow s that monster engine to be lifted AND it provides a useful handhold while standing and boarding. Looks OK too. I bet it was an @rsepain to roll
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13 April 2015, 13:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Make: OSPREY
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 166
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All your comments are much appreciated.
For those of you who prefer the more understated Vipermax then we can still provide all the console options and seating layouts that you are familiar with...
With regards to grab handles, yes agreed Andre. We are waiting on some stainless rails to go down either side of the front console hatch and also have on order some nice grab handles for either side of the plotter screen.
This is an example of another layout on a 6.8 that was completed 2 weeks ago for another customer that we took out to water test in Portishead last week.
And the next one to roll out in a couple of weeks is going to be the full Black and Carbon Look.
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13 April 2015, 13:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Make: OSPREY
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 166
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
* I like the A-frame. It allow s that monster engine to be lifted AND it provides a useful handhold while standing and boarding. Looks OK too. I bet it was an @rsepain to roll
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It was certainly a challenge to get the dimensions right !, we wanted to retain the look of the traditional Osprey A-frame whilst nodding towards the sleeker forward raking look. The aim was always to try and maintain the robust look of the Vipermax at the same time as to bring it in line with the modern trends.
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13 April 2015, 13:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Make: OSPREY
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 166
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And for Mollers.... just to prove we listen to all suggestions no matter how brutally they are put, the new style Aframe is bolted through the deck into an 8 inch Stainless Plate with M10 Bolts.
Should pull the skin off any rice pudding. even if its made with clotted cream ;-)
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13 April 2015, 15:32
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F115
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,919
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Lovely looking boats.
Just a query, and a very little one. Why do you use square washers on the top engine mounting bolts and circular on the bottom ones? Is that purely for extra strength?
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13 April 2015, 15:37
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A1an
Lovely looking boats.
Just a query, and a very little one. Why do you use square washers on the top engine mounting bolts and circular on the bottom ones? Is that purely for extra strength?
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I think they're the ones it comes with on the shipping create
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13 April 2015, 15:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OSPREY RIBS
All your comments are much appreciated.
For those of you who prefer the more understated Vipermax then we can still provide all the console options and seating layouts that you are familiar with...
With regards to grab handles, yes agreed Andre. We are waiting on some stainless rails to go down either side of the front console hatch and also have on order some nice grab handles for either side of the plotter screen.
This is an example of another layout on a 6.8 that was completed 2 weeks ago for another customer that we took out to water test in Portishead last week.
And the next one to roll out in a couple of weeks is going to be the full Black and Carbon Look.
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Does it come with Geckos for the suicide seat passengers?
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