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31 March 2009, 14:39
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Country: UK - England
Make: OSPREY
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Osprey fuel consumption
Just thought I would mention to all those interested boaters the setup I have on my 7.0m Vipermax and the relevent fuel consumption: The boat is a 7.0m with a 250 high output E-tec and I am running a 22 pitch Viper on a transom height of 27".
On a very nice trip from Barmouth to Portmadoc on Sunday last the conditions were fairly smooth and I noticed that most of the way the boat was travelling at 33 mph at 3,300 rpm using 33 litres per hour. This proved to be the most economical ratio of fuel used for the distance travelled which surprised me a little because I expected the boat to be a little more economical at about 28 mph when the boat was actually using 29 litres per hour. I think the figures are really good and if anything better than my old 7.0m with a 225 4 stroke engine.
If anybody else has got any comparisons to make reference propellers, engines etc., I think it would be interesting and may save us some money in fuel.
As a footnote the engine's using 94 litres per hour at 5,500 rpm and the boat is doing 57 mph - it's expensive but it's one hell of an hour!
Roy
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31 March 2009, 18:08
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Country: Netherlands
Town: Breda
Make: Scorpion
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude 250 DI
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 368
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Have an Evinrude 250 DI, the last model befor the E-tec came out.
On a Scorpion 7.5 with closed deck and cockpit, so a bit heavier.
Made a diagram on fuel, speed and RPM's.
The blue line is the speed km/hr.
The pink line is the fuel consumption liters/hr.
The orange line is the distance one can reach with 50 liters of fuel.
For exemple:
with 3000 R/min I use 26 liters/hr and with a speed of 36,5 km/hr cover a distance of 70,2 km on 50 liters of fuel. And that will take me about 2 hours.
The most economical way to travel is between 3000 and 4000 RPM.
At 1000 RPM it's even cheaper but there's no fun.
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31 March 2009, 18:54
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
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I have a 250 Etec, I have no idea how much fuel it burns at any revs. This is due to the fact that my Icommand instruments speak a different language to my sender and apparently I need some sort of stick to shove up the back of the Icommands inorder to get them to do anything.
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31 March 2009, 19:37
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
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I can't offer anything about optimum cruising speeds yet, as I've only just got the Lowrance engine gauge to talk to the GPS.
However, based upon last seasons total fuel consumption and log, I averaged 1.17 litres per nautical mile. Best fillup was 1.07 l/nm and worst 1.29. Most of my journeys are at 35kts for passages between 15 nm and 35nm.
Osprey Vipermax 6.5. Weight approx 1200kgs, Suzuki DF200.
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31 March 2009, 22:21
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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Originally Posted by Mollers
I have a 250 Etec, I have no idea how much fuel it burns at any revs. This is due to the fact that my Icommand instruments speak a different language to my sender and apparently I need some sort of stick to shove up the back of the Icommands inorder to get them to do anything.
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Why bother Mollers just get to where yo want to go and do what ya need to do
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01 April 2009, 08:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
Why bother Mollers just get to where yo want to go and do what ya need to do
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I would I assure you, forward planing is not my forte'. But, buying fuel on those silly Scillies is a nightmare, so when leaving from Falmouth, a degree of measurement is required.
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01 April 2009, 13:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: westlancs/anglesey
Boat name: Humper 2
Make: osprey vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: evinrude e-tec 250hp
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 92
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osprey fuel consumption
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Originally Posted by Mollers
I would I assure you, forward planing is not my forte'. But, buying fuel on those silly Scillies is a nightmare, so when leaving from Falmouth, a degree of measurement is required.
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Ive got 250 etec on 7.5 Vipermax and I`m with Mollers on this one I have`nt got a chuffin clue how much I`m using because I can`t get the Icommand to tell me anything. I only know what ive used when I fill up again and sometimes it`s a nice suprise and sometimes it`s very definitely NOT!! Think i`m going back to sender unit and gauge on the vipermax and on the latest project. You can keep the clever electronics.
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01 April 2009, 17:40
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Originally Posted by humper
Ive got 250 etec on 7.5 Vipermax and I`m with Mollers on this one I have`nt got a chuffin clue how much I`m using because I can`t get the Icommand to tell me anything. I only know what ive used when I fill up again and sometimes it`s a nice suprise and sometimes it`s very definitely NOT!! Think i`m going back to sender unit and gauge on the vipermax and on the latest project. You can keep the clever electronics.
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I've spoken to Roy Bishop, Pete, we have the wrong senders. If you give him a call, he replace it. Apparently we also memory sticks which 'Chris' will tell you about.
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01 April 2009, 18:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: westlancs/anglesey
Boat name: Humper 2
Make: osprey vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: evinrude e-tec 250hp
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 92
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osprey fuel consumption
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Originally Posted by Mollers
I've spoken to Roy Bishop, Pete, we have the wrong senders. If you give him a call, he replace it. Apparently we also memory sticks which 'Chris' will tell you about.
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Hi Chris, thanks for that, i`ll speak to Roy. I could really do with getting that sorted out. Have you been out yet this year? I mean have you launched yet?
Regards
Pete
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01 April 2009, 20:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Humper,
To get the fuel data that your engine can supply you need a Memory Module
P/N - 0764181
Its really easy to fit you need to find where all your Network T pieces are(probably in the console) find the connectors then just Tee in this module takes about 5 mins and just screws in.
You can then get trip fuel usage info that can be reset from the guages. As for the tank fuel level then you will need the new fuel sender as Mollers said.
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. Also I sent you a PM a few months ago about your screen and Stainless surround. Have you got any more PICs as It looks like it offers good protection from the elements.
Chris
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01 April 2009, 21:08
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Originally Posted by humper
Hi Chris, thanks for that, i`ll speak to Roy. I could really do with getting that sorted out. Have you been out yet this year? I mean have you launched yet?
Regards
Pete
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Sorry about the previous 'Borat' style thread. I was being rushed to leave the house.
No, not been out yet this season, but getting close to the pre-season 'once over'. The weather has been glorious down this way recently. There are a few jobs that need addressing. New VHF aerial, sort fuel management , replace peeling 'Osprey' decals ( Thanks again Roy), re-comission trailer (service brakes and re-fit wheels)and fit new compass.
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02 April 2009, 00:40
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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and lob a 1/4 ton of fuel in it
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02 April 2009, 08:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
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Engine: Honda BF50
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Originally Posted by Downhilldai
and lob a 1/4 ton of fuel in it
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Cheers for that. I might have to flog the Head Magnums to cover the fuel. Didn't fancy being in the 'Head Club' anyway, I wouldn't be able to cope with the 100kmh+ speeds.
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02 April 2009, 10:55
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: westlancs/anglesey
Boat name: Humper 2
Make: osprey vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: evinrude e-tec 250hp
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 92
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osprey fuel consumption
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Originally Posted by Chris
Humper,
To get the fuel data that your engine can supply you need a Memory Module
P/N - 0764181
Its really easy to fit you need to find where all your Network T pieces are(probably in the console) find the connectors then just Tee in this module takes about 5 mins and just screws in.
You can then get trip fuel usage info that can be reset from the guages. As for the tank fuel level then you will need the new fuel sender as Mollers said.
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. Also I sent you a PM a few months ago about your screen and Stainless surround. Have you got any more PICs as It looks like it offers good protection from the elements.
Chris
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Hi Chris, thanks for the information re the fuel usage. I thought I had replied to you at the time regarding the screen, i`ll check my sent messages and resend, if I did`nt, please accept my apologies. The screen I had on that particular boat was ok in terms of protection and it was easy to make but I was never really happy with the way it looked. The grab-rail was very simple to fabricate and the screen was 3mm flat polycarb that was pliable enough to curve to the shape of the discovery console and held in place by the fixing bolts around the console and on the lugs of the grabrail. If you can send me a full size patten in card of what you want I can get you a screen cut as I have a plastics production company.
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02 April 2009, 15:05
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Country: UK - England
Make: OSPREY
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Thanks for your comments - it's interesting to hear what other people are getting although in the end I tend to agree with Bigmuz 7, let's just get out there and enjoy ourselves!!
The boat test on the Vipermax 7.0m is now available in the May issue of Sports Boat & Rib - I must admit I breathed a sigh of relief when I read it - I think our boats are really good and obviously I was hoping for a good review but I had no way of knowing what they really thought! It's a good honest unbiased test and well worth a read.
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02 April 2009, 15:32
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Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Cheers for that. I might have to flog the Head Magnums to cover the fuel. Didn't fancy being in the 'Head Club' anyway, I wouldn't be able to cope with the 100kmh+ speeds.
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Did you make 90
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02 April 2009, 17:49
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bedajim
Did you make 90
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I think he's just afraid it would mess with his barnet
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