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02 February 2012, 22:43
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Bangor
Boat name: Lencraft 4.8m
Make: Lencraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: DT55HP Suzuki
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Outboard Lock device
Just insured the boat and they specify that some sort of lock be fitted to the outboard. Without a forklift I doubt anyone could lift it from the boat so not seriously worried but to keep myself right I want to fit the cheapest possible device! Cheapest I have seen is about £35
Any cheaper ones about? Feel free to offer me a used one
Cheers
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02 February 2012, 22:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorkshire
Boat name: Sold it !
Length: 3m +
Engine: Totallyhotsue 9.8 2S
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 258
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I have the very same query and this evening emailed craftinsure a photo of a large padlock securing the engine asking if this is sufficient. Their policy states
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Any outboard motor will be attached to the boat by a purpose manufactured anti theft device
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I'll post the reply tomorrow.
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02 February 2012, 22:54
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,066
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you will find if it's not that £35 one your not insured...It is surprising how many large engines go missing without a fortlift!
search the forum...
IMHO £35 for a lock is cheap compared to the thousands for engine...
dont skimp!
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02 February 2012, 22:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
MMSI: 235025718
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,177
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I got the motor loc ones just to be the correct side of the insurance
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03 February 2012, 09:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,165
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomKat
Just insured the boat and they specify that some sort of lock be fitted to the outboard. Without a forklift I doubt anyone could lift it from the boat so not seriously worried but to keep myself right I want to fit the cheapest possible device! Cheapest I have seen is about £35
Any cheaper ones about? Feel free to offer me a used one
Cheers
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The scrotes don't bother with a forklift, they just Stihl saw the transom out & take the lot
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03 February 2012, 16:07
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Bangor
Boat name: Lencraft 4.8m
Make: Lencraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: DT55HP Suzuki
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 469
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
The scrotes don't bother with a forklift, they just Stihl saw the transom out & take the lot
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My thoughts exactly! No point in an expensive bolt contraption as it will not stop this (if they want it they will take it) therefore the cheapest that keeps the insurance boys happy will do me! The insurer is Towergate and they have not specified approved etc, they just say an outboard locking device.
Is £35 the cheapest anyone has seen?
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03 February 2012, 18:21
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wirral & Caernarfon
Boat name: That's Enuff
Make: Revenger & Avon SR4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Honda 150HP & 50HP
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,421
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomKat
Just insured the boat and they specify that some sort of lock be fitted to the outboard. Without a forklift I doubt anyone could lift it from the boat so not seriously worried but to keep myself right I want to fit the cheapest possible device! Cheapest I have seen is about £35
Any cheaper ones about? Feel free to offer me a used one
Cheers
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been there, done it, got the tee shirt not the best experience I've ever had, but one thing that I did learn from it was that not only do the insurance expect a lock to be fitted, but when you claim for the loss, in our case a 12mth old Honda 150hp, they also want some proof that you had actually bought one and fitted it, don't forget to keep the reciept and take a couple of photos of it fitted. The one fitted now is a Motorloc Volcano Bolt Lock. We were very lucky, we had all the receipts for servicing etc, and as it was so new it was replaced with another new Honda 150hp, but it takes forever even if you can satisfy the questions, I wouldn't want to go through it and not have the proof
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03 February 2012, 18:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sheepy Parva
Boat name: Sadly Sold
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,731
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SPR
dont skimp!
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+1
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03 February 2012, 19:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorkshire
Boat name: Sold it !
Length: 3m +
Engine: Totallyhotsue 9.8 2S
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 258
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Craftinsure response
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Whilst the security method would involve forcible and violent removal, the padlock does leave the clamps vulnerable to attack – and for this reason we generally prefer you to have something more akin to what can be seen at www.outboardmotorlocks.co.uk.
I wouldn’t insist on it, but for your own peace of mind you might feel such a lock to be a better investment!
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I'm not planning leaving it unattended anywhere but I'll keep an eye out for an outboard lock.
I have already photographed the boat and engine together with close ups of the serial numbers for insurance purposes if I need to make a claim.
Craftinsure are cheaper for me than Towergate and they have responded to my email queries within a working day
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03 February 2012, 20:52
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,645
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomKat
Without a forklift I doubt anyone could lift it from the boat.
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Weight isn't a deterrent. Large engines (big brute 4-strokes) have been stolen before, cables and electrics cut then carried across open ground to a waiting van. So your mid-sized 2-stroke would be like a walk in the park.
I fitted a Yamaha outboard lock before (cylinder type) that covers the bolt head. Not cheap, but well made, stainless steel, etc.
At the end of they day - if they (thieving bas*ards) want it - then it's as good as gone.
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03 February 2012, 21:31
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Member
Country: UK - N Ireland
Town: Bangor, Co Down
Boat name: Ribeye & Tremlett 15
Make: Ribeye & Tremlett 15
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha F40, Merc 500
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 265
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spartacus
I fitted a Yamaha outboard lock before (cylinder type) that covers the bolt head. Not cheap, but well made, stainless steel, etc.
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correct, not cheap
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03 February 2012, 22:41
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Bangor
Boat name: Lencraft 4.8m
Make: Lencraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: DT55HP Suzuki
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 469
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All locks are there to stop your friends from taking it, if someone determined wants it its gone!
One of these it is then Welcome to Outboard Motor Locks OUR OUTBOARD MOTOR LOCK PRODUCTS
TK
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04 February 2012, 00:55
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Dalriada
Make: Solent
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner 75
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 23
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My insurance policy requires I have an outboard lock, wheel lock and hitch lock. For the outboard lock i fitted the volcano after reading some reviews.
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04 February 2012, 12:39
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Bangor
Boat name: Lencraft 4.8m
Make: Lencraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: DT55HP Suzuki
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 469
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Think I might make one, its just a bit of 316 with a locking cap, Using a normal padlock through the end could do the same job as the cap as per on of the first replys. Neither would stop a thief just slow him down, will check with the insurance guys and report back!
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