Pacific 22 - Page 2

Pete7 · 08 March 2004, 22:36

Ian there is something wrong with your tank. 2 x jerry cans is 40L therfore you only managed 45 L in the main tank. Has the end of the fuel pic up come adrift ? so you are only getting to use the top half of the tank. Got a feeling its a rubber hose inside the tank rather than a steel tube.

Lift the round hatch behind the console to gain access to the top of the tank and put a dip stick in the filler when you next fill her up.

Pete

Ian Austin · 08 March 2004, 22:46

Thanks chaps
i will look into it, as i do not fancy to put fuel in from a can while bobbing around, i know where there is a 25 gallon stainless shaped tank, for not a lot of dosh, but the consul will have to be removed won't it, if i want to change it?????

Pete7 · 08 March 2004, 23:03

If you do then the 170L vetus tank fits like a glove and solves the problem in one go.

If you start now you should be finished just about in time for Ribex.

Pete

Ian Austin · 08 March 2004, 23:07

In 2005

Paul F · 08 March 2004, 23:14

Ian
if you have to refill at sea from a can,get yourself an outboard fuel line,take the end fittings off, acouple of pumps on the old primer and just let it run.it dont take long

Pete7 · 08 March 2004, 23:19

Or fuelly from Rogue Wave, 3/4" tube with a marble in it. Brilliant bit of kit, just wobble the tube a bit and it flows.

Ian glad you started this thread because I have a feeling its going to run on a bit and I have taken enough flak from Mrs Jackleen over the last Pacific thread.

P

jwalker · 08 March 2004, 23:57

Fuelly? Tell us more.

Pete7 · 09 March 2004, 00:50

Marble in a 2" metal sleve acts as a one way valve to prime the hose so the fuel doesn't have to be siphoned. Jangling it up and down a bit normally does the trick. 3/4" is easier to prime although they are available in 1" sizes as well.

Pete

Rogue Wave · 09 March 2004, 02:12

WJ

I think it's actually called the Super pump and they really are superb. They cost about 12.50 and you can get em in chandlers nowadays or I can send you one.

As you are a bloke you will find the method of operation familiar!

Scary Des · 09 March 2004, 08:28

Ian one of the local Sea Start people told me that the problem you get with the P22 fuel tank is that because every one dips them with a piece of wood to see what left you get lots of splinters floating around the tank. These bits, when the tank is low, temporarily block the outlet and everything stops. Fill the tank and of it goes until the next time. The reason he know so much was it happened to him.

Ian Austin · 09 March 2004, 21:29

Hi Pete
Now, was it my intention to keep the Pacific 22 at the top of the thread chain, maybe

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Are you coming down to see the sinking of HMS Scilla ????

Them siphon things sound a very good idea, or a bl**dy fuel gauge.

Ian Austin · 10 March 2004, 23:18

Rogue w
Sorry, don't know what you are talking about, see i am married.

Pete7 · 11 March 2004, 09:35

Ian, sadly my P22 is still in for some very expensive repairs therefore may not be ready in time

Also I fear that the diving rable will be on her before she even hits the deck to claim "I was first" & "I penetrated the wreck" each of them armed with a 7lb lump hammer twin cylinders, distance lines et-al.

A smart cooke however would be there selling t shirts and a divers guide to the wreck etc.

If you are keeping the existing console then it could be disconnected, deck lifted and the tank changed with reasonable ease. The throttle control box however is cheap and tacky so you should consider changing this for something better.

Pete

{looking the garage for me hammer}

Ian Austin · 11 March 2004, 22:09

Pete
How come yours needs all these expensive repairs, i was told these were bomb proof.

I will change the tank over the next winter i think, i want to use it first, then by the winter there will be more to do anyway.

I was going to go out for a play today but thought it would be a good idea to check out the fuel system, took the top off the tank, cork, gasket was shot, fuel had been leaking out.
Loads of sludge in the bottom and floating around, so i have drained the tank and cleaned it out.
The fuel pickup pipe is a one peice tube that goes to within 15 mm of the bottom, tried to get a sender unit for the tank but could not get local, so that will be done later.

The engine controls are fine, there is an Ultraflex control fitted, not a standard item, i would say.

Didn't go out, as it started sleeting and it was blowing quite hard, it was stinging my eyes just walking down the marina.

Pete7 · 11 March 2004, 22:43

Ian hi, they are pretty bomb proof, however 3 tonnes of old yacht ran into the back of her whilst she was being re fulled last August and I am still fighting the compensation claim for loss of charter work.

The damage was to the A frame and top of the transom, and a few bits and pieces. GRP work is completed and exemplary so with the fittings replaced she should be back shortly.

Pete

Ian Austin · 11 March 2004, 23:07

Ouch, Thats the trouble with people who hang there washing up on big sticks, they haven't gotta clue, this stems from folks having to avoid them out at sea, so they think everyone is going to move out of there way, parked or not.

Bet there were some choice words muttered ,

Neville · 14 March 2004, 18:06

ian,

there is a fuel adjustment screw normally with a small cover on it on the top of the injection pump. if you screw it in gently that will up the fuel. this can be done by a pump specialist who will hit you for over 200 pounds, or you can adjust it yourself (which no one will recommend!) by simply taking it out to sea and screwing it in slightly. A common thing to go wrong on these fuel systems is air leaks. So that would be the next check - an air leak in to the system will make it hard to start sometimes and a lack of power, then possibly misfiring.

With reference to your fuel tank, a local aluminium welder will make you one which will fit perfectly for 200 - 250 pounds, if you are careful, you can lift the console sideways and upwards at the front and slip it under, thus not having to replace it or rewire it. I think Pete7 has some photos o\in the gallery of this being done and I also have put some in. good luck.

Ian Austin · 14 March 2004, 22:11

Many thanks Neville
I think i will first check the boost pressure with another gauge, as i feel something is not right, i went out for a play on Saturday, coming back into Brixham, into a force 4/5 it still managed 31.6 knots with a damaged prop, 2500 rpm and boost was reading just over 0.6 bar, i have run with the engine cover off ( got a freind to drive, as i though i had a water leak ) and didn't hear any air leaks, i will get the tank altered and put a gauge in which is more important IMHO, fueling up is not a problem, running out is.

Pete7 · 14 March 2004, 22:49

Ian, if you can achieve 31 knots there is not alot wrong that boat except that the prop might be a little to big so very slow acceleration.

Pete

Ian Austin · 14 March 2004, 23:20

Pete
i did get 32.5 once with the wind behind me and undamaged prop, i don't know if the acceleration is slow or not, i think it is OK, i am happy wiv it. just worried about running out of fuel, fuel barge for the marina is comming back for another month +.