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11 May 2014, 21:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: portsmouth
Boat name: patch
Make: avon sr5.4/4m
Length: 5m +
Engine: mercury 90/honda 30
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Pacific 22 rebuild
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11 May 2014, 21:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: portsmouth
Boat name: patch
Make: avon sr5.4/4m
Length: 5m +
Engine: mercury 90/honda 30
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12 May 2014, 06:10
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bromsgrove
Boat name: Kick-Ass !
Make: PAC/Artic 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 250hp Yamaha
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Looking good. Keep up the good work
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12 May 2014, 13:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
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Pretty sure I have driven this rib some years ago, probably 2005 time. Rogue Wave was considering buying it so it appeared at Saxon Wharf on the Itchen. Invited along for the grand sea trial, Stu untied the rib and cast us off, only one problem the engine wasn't running. Having sorted that out I was then faced with 3 levers, none of which was labelled or obvious what they did, so we played with them as we shot across the little marina bouncing off posh yachts desperately trying to gain some sort of control of the monster. Sadly weren't all together successful and seemed to go sideways as much as forward.
Best speed we got was about 15 knots before the engine slowly overheated and we returned to the Wharf. The idea of going out to sea was a non starter until the rib was sorted. Overheating turned out to be the engine thermostat was stuck.
Should be an interesting project and the short time we drove her she was a bundle of laughs and great fun
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12 May 2014, 13:06
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Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Fugly & Rokraider 1
Make: Pac 22 & Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Ford 250 & jet,DT140
Join Date: Jun 2008
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An interesting project. Just finishing off my Pac 22 rebuild which has been a total rebuild of everything including the Jet and engine. When do you hope to get it on the water?
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12 May 2014, 14:37
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
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The Chuckle Brother get a RIB
Hi Tim
If I recall we launched at Saxon and abandoned the Voyage at Saxon Wharf. The boat in that short period of time was named Sidewinder . Does it still have a PP jet on it? it was nigh on impossible to drive it wasn't that we didn't know what the levers were for it's just they didn't have any effect on direction and the steering wheel was largely ornamental.
Funnily enough as I have learnt more about Jets I sometimes think of Sidewinder and what was causing the problems and I think I know what it was. When she's ready for the water let me know its a very cheap fix if you are, or know, a Fabricator.
in terms of the overhauling of the RIB at the time it was an honour to work with Pete on the overhauling of his PAC he was a mine of information and Skill and your practically neighbours.
Pete Didn't Phil trade this with Jamie from Extreme Marine quite soon after our test drive
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12 May 2014, 15:16
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Country: UK - England
Town: portsmouth
Boat name: patch
Make: avon sr5.4/4m
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Engine: mercury 90/honda 30
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Thanks guys go a bit of history sounds like you had a full on nightmare !!! The three levers puzzled me at first but a few minutes of tracing and we worked those out, the two on the top morse box are throttle and reverse bucket and the lower morse by your foot is neutral and forward on a separate gearbox, I can't wait to have a play and cause some mayhem in the marina, looking at it you boys where proberly the last out in it lol, and I'm aiming for about another two weeks of playing then the big launch !!
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12 May 2014, 16:21
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Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Fugly & Rokraider 1
Make: Pac 22 & Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Ford 250 & jet,DT140
Join Date: Jun 2008
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For the uninitiated, Jets are very different to drive if you are coming to it from an outboard. For a start it has no rudder in the water, so you have no physical steering
It took me a while to get used to mine and I have a long way to go yet. The 3 levers are throttle, Bucket (scoop) and gearbox. On mine I have forward, neutral and reverse on the gearbox. All manouveres are done with the gearbox in forward, you only put it in reverse to backflush the Jet if it has ingested seaweed, plastic bags etc. Steering is very vague unless you have the jet pumping fairly hard. To maintain steering, it pays to keep the revs up around 1000 RPM to maintain reasonable pump pressure and then put the bucket down a bit to spill some of the thrust downwards and then control the speed with the bucket. All instincts when manouvering in tight spaces is to pull the power off, as you would with an outboard, but with the revs dropped, you will have virtually no steering. Once moving slowly all speed control is done with the bucket and fixed revs. The other tip is to ensure the gearbox is in neutral before you start it and once you have got the the boat up to the jetty etc and its where you want it, put it in neutral as all the time the jet is pumping it will be pushing the boat about.
When going backwards, the steering works in reverse to the way an outboard works. This is because you have the bucket down and the jet pressure is now deflecting forward from the bucket.
If you set the bucket about halfway down and use the steering, it acts similar to a bow thruster on at the stern.
The attached link shows it quite graphically and you can hear that the engine is revving a bit rather than at idle.
Impressive driving skills in my opinion.
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12 May 2014, 16:54
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Town: portsmouth
Boat name: patch
Make: avon sr5.4/4m
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Engine: mercury 90/honda 30
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Yeah not bad !! I think he's done that before
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12 May 2014, 22:08
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Country: UK - England
Town: surrey
Boat name: el nino
Make: tornado humber
Length: 7m +
Engine: outboards
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 958
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That was cheap boat if was not ill I had it
Adrian
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14 May 2014, 22:04
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Town: portsmouth
Boat name: patch
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15 May 2014, 08:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: surrey
Boat name: el nino
Make: tornado humber
Length: 7m +
Engine: outboards
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Looking good, have you just painted the hull ?
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15 May 2014, 15:14
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Boat name: patch
Make: avon sr5.4/4m
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No it's all being gel coated in French grey !!
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17 May 2014, 18:11
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
it was nigh on impossible to drive, it wasn't that we didn't know what the levers were for it's just they didn't have any effect on direction and the steering wheel was largely ornamental.
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Sums it up nicely, I think and it was a hoot going down the river Itchen sideways
However, with the current re-build and some tweeks it could be brilliant boat with a draft measuring in inches.
I think it did end up with Jamie (second hand rib dealer on the Itchen). He also had a rather rare 24ft Pacific in yellow, but wanted serious cash for that which was too rich for us.
Pete
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17 May 2014, 23:23
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Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Marty
Make: Avon Searider 5.4m
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 85 Origin
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Interesting project Tim. I'm a fellow club member so I'll look out for it, to have a peak! 😄
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21 May 2014, 21:12
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Just fitted the tubes back on after days of elbow grease cleaning them up, and days of drilling new aluminium flat plate but well worth it seeing them back on
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25 May 2014, 21:18
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Quick update on new transom all gelled in jet overhauled fingers crossed Wednesday launch !!
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10 June 2014, 17:21
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First sea trail yesterday and all went very well, everything worked as it should and she really goes well even tho I just poddled about double checking everything as we know she's not been used in around 10 years but when I did open her up she was straight up on the plan and around 25knots 3/4 throttle so looks like she will do her rated 30knots, very impressed and can't wait to get her out in a big sea !!!
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