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08 June 2008, 05:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: ?
Make: Halmatic 28/Solent
Length: 8m +
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Pacific or Artic
I have purchased ex MoD Artic 28 as a project, if i fit an inboard does it make it a pacific,
What speed will I get with 300hp?
anyone else taken on similar project?
Chubby
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08 June 2008, 08:12
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
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Make: SR5.4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chubby
I have purchased ex MoD Artic 28 as a project, if i fit an inboard does it make it a pacific,
What speed will I get with 300hp?
anyone else taken on similar project?
Chubby
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No, don't think it make it a Pacific. Bloody hell thats a BIG project!
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08 June 2008, 09:30
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Country: UK - England
Town: NW/SW/Nigeria
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Length: 6m +
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nope, wont make it a an pacific and as a bove rather you than me bloody hell.....good luck
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08 June 2008, 10:30
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Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
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Woo. You're gonna have to do some clever grafting there to regain the longitudinal strength, chubby.
That hull is surprisingly thin.
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08 June 2008, 17:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
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Make: Halmatic 28/Solent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
No, don't think it make it a Pacific. Bloody hell thats a BIG project!
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Halmatic do a pacific 28 with 2 Yamaha 250hp Diesels!
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08 June 2008, 17:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
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Make: Halmatic 28/Solent
Length: 8m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chubby
I have purchased ex MoD Artic 28 as a project, if i fit an inboard does it make it a pacific,
What speed will I get with 300hp?
anyone else taken on similar project?
Chubby
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anyone know where to get the white foam from its a sort of plastic, i am triny to rebuild as much as original as possible!
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08 June 2008, 19:09
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Country: UK - England
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i wish you luck chubby and i hope they gave you that hull
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08 June 2008, 19:57
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chubby - if the tubes are in reasonable nick - would you be more ecconomical to get a cheap hull with no/nackered tubes and combining the two boats to make one decent one?
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08 June 2008, 21:50
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
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Theres a chap who has posted on here by the name of "twister", apparantly he is doing or is planning to do the same thing. Send him a PM and he might be able to help.
The white foam is just ordinary polyethylene closed cell foam. Best of luck to you!
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08 June 2008, 23:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: Near Bristol
Boat name: Titch ll
Make: Ribtec 5.85
Length: 5m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chubby
I have purchased ex MoD Artic 28 as a project, if i fit an inboard does it make it a pacific,
What speed will I get with 300hp?
anyone else taken on similar project?
Chubby
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Hmmm quite a project - wouldn't it be easier to slice off the back and call it a 6 meter
Anyway keep us posted and good luck.
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09 June 2008, 05:45
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Town: Portsmouth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
Theres a chap who has posted on here by the name of "twister", apparantly he is doing or is planning to do the same thing. Send him a PM and he might be able to help.
The white foam is just ordinary polyethylene closed cell foam. Best of luck to you!
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what speed do you get from your Halmatic with outboards, i have all the engine electrics off mine which i will be bined if no one wants them, any use free to a good home
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09 June 2008, 20:20
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
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Make: Arctic 28/FC470
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chubby
what speed do you get from your Halmatic with outboards, i have all the engine electrics off mine which i will be bined if no one wants them, any use free to a good home
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I'll let you know when I've finished building it! One thing I would take off your hands if you didnt have use for it is one of the big bolts that go thru the hull for the lifting eyes, I'm one short (don't ask )
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10 June 2008, 05:28
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Member
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Town: Portsmouth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
I'll let you know when I've finished building it! One thing I would take off your hands if you didnt have use for it is one of the big bolts that go thru the hull for the lifting eyes, I'm one short (don't ask )
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don't have any spare but will keep an eye out! when do you expect to have yours running?
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10 June 2008, 22:38
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Scheveningen
Boat name: Stormmeeuw
Make: Halmatic
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo d6 330
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Lots of work to do , I see. I'm indeed converting an arctic to inboard, but with only one engine. I think it's best to rebuild your stringers, except the most middle longitudal one, mount the engine on a (S)steel frame, indicate how much room you need for batteries etc, take all the wood from the transom, put a new wooden transom in, glasfiber it and use a 2 component foam to regain strength in the hull. This is a very, very big project. Or you have to find two jets that fit the holes in the hull and make it a double diesel inboard.
I haven't got an idea what speed it will have with a 300, I've contacted Halmatic several times and they just won't answer. I'm doubting if the 315 ya,aha would be enough to use. I'm considering a yanmar 440hp with Konrad drive instead.
Good luck
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11 June 2008, 12:44
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Scheveningen
Boat name: Stormmeeuw
Make: Halmatic
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Engine: Volvo d6 330
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What I do know is:
Outboard:
2x250=55knots
2x200= 46 knots
This was told to me by halmatic. A I said, no info about pacific inboards.
Twister
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11 June 2008, 20:10
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chubby
don't have any spare but will keep an eye out! when do you expect to have yours running?
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Hopefully end of july but depends on parts getting here and the length of the snagging list at the end!
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12 June 2008, 18:19
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
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getting there slowly
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twister
Lots of work to do , I see. I'm indeed converting an arctic to inboard, but with only one engine. I think it's best to rebuild your stringers, except the most middle longitudal one, mount the engine on a (S)steel frame, indicate how much room you need for batteries etc, take all the wood from the transom, put a new wooden transom in, glasfiber it and use a 2 component foam to regain strength in the hull. This is a very, very big project. Or you have to find two jets that fit the holes in the hull and make it a double diesel inboard.
I haven't got an idea what speed it will have with a 300, I've contacted Halmatic several times and they just won't answer. I'm doubting if the 315 ya,aha would be enough to use. I'm considering a yanmar 440hp with Konrad drive instead.
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i have already replaced the Transom and layed out the stringers will get them glassed in Tomorrow and the engine beds layed out, then Sat cut tramsom and offer the engine in to check everything!
how are you getting on with yours when do you expect to start using it?
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12 June 2008, 21:29
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Scheveningen
Boat name: Stormmeeuw
Make: Halmatic
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I don't really know when we will be ready. First I have to decide which engine it will be. I'm trying to place the engine under the console and use a shaft to the stern.
Are you making it ready for single installation?
What hp/engine do you want to use?
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13 June 2008, 05:02
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Member
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Town: Portsmouth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twister
I don't really know when we will be ready. First I have to decide which engine it will be. I'm trying to place the engine under the console and use a shaft to the stern.
Are you making it ready for single installation?
What hp/engine do you want to use?
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i have a 300 d tronic bravo 3 waiting to drop in hopefully this week
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13 June 2008, 09:23
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Scheveningen
Boat name: Stormmeeuw
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chubby
i have a 300 d tronic bravo 3 waiting to drop in hopefully this week
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Ok, When do you think you will get it in the water then? I really want to know what your cruise & topspeed is with this engine.
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