pacific p 22 problems

seaquest1 · 19 March 2006, 18:56

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help dont know if i am on the right forum or not i am sure someone will point me in the correct direction anyway
my problem with my p22 is for some reason the breaker switch for ignition keeps popping out showing a heavy load before breaking.

also boat has started to stop for no reason at all just shuts down ,
i think i have put it down to the flap that covers the intake turbo can any one tell me if they have experenced this before or know the reason why its doing this

it would also be very kind to see a wireing diagram for this boat ??

all help greatly appreiciated

mike

jackcastoff · 19 March 2006, 21:31

Rewire the shutdown flapper and see if it happens again. Replace the switch.

The vast majority of P22's are between 10 & 20 years old and the wiring & switches can be compromised. Get a new switch for the lanyard - they are cheap. Alot of P22's have the shutdown valves removed because of this problem, but the circuit is simple so it is easy to work on.

The ignition circuit is fairly simple to fault find. Best way is to shutdown the other breakers and see if you still get the problem, and if so, go hunting with a clamp on meter for the short.

Pete7 or Nev will give you a wiring diagram. Good luck JC

seaquest1 · 19 March 2006, 21:48

thanks for the reply jc

yes thought of just doing that anyaway
i have already pulled all the breakers out and still the ignition 1 breaks and stops the charging
mike

ps
wouldent mind speaking to
pete7 or nev about wireing

Pete7 · 20 March 2006, 08:38

Mike hi, I don't have this problem because mine hasn't got the flapper valve fitted although Nev has sent me one which is sitting on my desk at the moment. Instead I intend to fit a solenoid to the FIP shortly which means a kill cord can be fitted. Mermaid do the solenoid and a little bracket to make it fit.

There should be a wiring diragram in the P22 Owners manual on my web site, help yourself to a copy

Nev is in Edinburgh somewhere but not exactly sure where, however he refurbishes P22 for a living and is a mine of information. Think this is one of his.

http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/F87958/

Regards Pete

Pete7 · 20 March 2006, 15:16

Oops just been pointed out that its not in the owners manual, try this,

Pete

seaquest1 · 21 March 2006, 15:28

firstly thanks to all who have helped and contributed

thanks also pete7 for wireing

i have now solved this problem
the problem was with the flapper solinoid i believe

i remember checking this by pushing the flapper closed to see if it went down
it must have developed a fault because after that things got worse i disconnected it and now the trip for the ignition stays put connect it and dead shortning .
cheers to all
mike

Paul F · 21 March 2006, 18:41

Glad you sorted it.
Our soleniod lasted about 2 weeks and gave up(they dont like being left activated/pulled in)
Mermaid want about £50 for one, and Nev was going to get us one.
Still not done, so if anyone has one or know where we can get a cheaper one would be most greatful
Paul

Pete7 · 21 March 2006, 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul F

Mermaid want about £50 for one, and Paul

So thats £25 at an auto factors if we can find a make and part number.

Pete

Scary Des · 21 March 2006, 19:12

Read this thread, i think it mentions the part number

Des

Paul F · 21 March 2006, 22:57

Cheers Des,
Will see if i can track them down tomorrow
Paul

Paul F · 22 March 2006, 21:41

Knowles Electronics are USA based and look as though might be hard to track down.
Have emailed Mermaid to see what they got, maybe a used one might be avail.
Paul

Pete7 · 24 April 2006, 10:21

Paul, driving past Mermaid last week I popped in with the credit card and picked up a FIP soleniod. Paid the £50 for the convienence and it comes with the right size bracket to fit the pump. Installation was straight forward and is triggered from a mercuriser kill switch, which I have been meaning to fit for a long time (driving the P22 solo with no kill switch was a concern). The merc kill switch makes a circuit when the cord is pulled so opperates the soleniod. A separate press button piggy backed on to the kill switch switch allows the engine to be stopped normally.

Pete

Paul F · 24 April 2006, 18:16

That looks better. I already have a merc kill switch fitted. Have you now done away with the manual pull stop then?? Might have to go down that route.
Paul

Matt · 24 April 2006, 18:40

I shouldn't worry, if you fell overboard you could always do breast stroke and catch up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete7

(driving the P22 solo with no kill switch was a concern).

Paul F · 24 April 2006, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMat

I shouldn't worry, if you fell overboard you could always do breast stroke and catch up.

now now, dont forget there built for the real rough stuff and not top speed and will out run many a rib when the going gets really tough.
Paul

Matt · 24 April 2006, 22:31

No, they're built to survive the navy, which is a completely different thing!

Pete7 · 25 April 2006, 08:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMat

I shouldn't worry, if you fell overboard you could always do breast stroke and catch up.

Meeow

, says she who has been busy during the last two years converting "Distant Fumble" into a caravan.

LINK

Paul, yes ditched the cable stop. The soleniod has quite a kick to it (the word "mouse trap" springs to mind) so it might need a better clamp on the FIP shut off lever.

Pete