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05 May 2004, 23:02
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Painting the Hull + Pumping up tubes
Evening Clever people - 2 quick questions which I sure you'll either point and laff at me or be nice and say "yeah,good buy!"
Basically I bought this paint today - is it the right stuff to paint my searider hull(inside floor) with please?
and also does nayone know how these bits go together of the end of the hose part from the hand pump to pump up the tubes please?
Many Many thanks in advance guys
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05 May 2004, 23:06
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No idea about the paint but..
Stuff the left hand grey bit on the end of the hose, ribbed end first. If the other end of the grey bit doesn't fit in the valves then slide one of the black bits on the end of the grey bit you just fitted. Cut the rest off and keep somewhere safe.
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05 May 2004, 23:10
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fantasticly quick response there mate cheers
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05 May 2004, 23:27
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Information on the paint can be found here: http://194.128.184.165/pds/yacht/GB_ISO_M_5000300.htm
Sounds like the right stuff to me, "Excellent abrasion resistance and durability". Although it doesn't have any non-slip stuff in it, so it could be slippery unless you’re painting over an existing non-slip surface. You can buy a non-slip additive, its just a little sachet of sand like material - works though.
They do have non-slip deck paint, but not in your colour.
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06 May 2004, 16:36
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Thanks mate!, least im getting something right this week - I'm going to give the floor a light rub down, as it says on the tin with sandpaper, I think I'll have to wire brush some parts though what with it being that anoyying buddling surface : ) - I'll post progress before and after pics
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06 May 2004, 16:53
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Use a good degreaser before painting and make sure the temperature is up above 10c of it can go all naff!
Cheers
Stephen
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06 May 2004, 21:09
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do you recommend washing down with degreaser before rubbing down or after?
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06 May 2004, 21:18
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Olly, I think after it, though no doubt Manos will have a reason for doing it beforehand (when is he back). I used a green pan scourer and jif. Lots of jif. Took the nice smooth shiney deck back to dull gel coat.
Tipped the boat up, garden hose and did it three times but the paint really stuck well. The second time I wasn't so methodical and the results showed. I also thinned the first coat with a splash of thinners, (think International recommended 10%)
Are you going to put the grit in the paint ? it will be like an ice skating ring if you spill oil or petrol and there is no grit or rough surface. You might be better off with deck paint.
Pete
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06 May 2004, 21:35
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Cheers for that, sounds like I have right task on my hands now - when the boat was new it cant have been much different slipperyness wise after i paint it can it - im really not sure bout putting grit in the paint, im scared id mess up the mixture, would antislip rubber decking sections be a better plan?
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06 May 2004, 23:14
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I would stick with the paint and follow Petes recommendations. Pop back down the chandlers and grab a sachet of anti-slip additive. Blakes do one; it costs around £3 per sachet which is enough for 2.5l of paint.
It will definitely be worth it in the end.
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07 May 2004, 02:45
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Yeh, use the correct grit/sand and a radiator roller (long handle) with a foam roller. Paint the area first, sprinkle the grit over (a little at a time) and apply a second coat staight away making sure the you've even coverage of the grit and the results you want. Painted treadplates and operator platforms this way for years and had no probs (see website).
Andy
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07 May 2004, 08:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ollyit
do you recommend washing down with degreaser before rubbing down or after?
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You only need to degrease after you have done all the other prep work.
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07 May 2004, 08:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ollyit
Cheers for that, - im really not sure bout putting grit in the paint, im scared id mess up the mixture, would antislip rubber decking sections be a better plan?
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Adding the grit is like putting sugar in coffee, just pour it in the tin and stir. Adding the thinners I thought I had put too much in but it worked well.
The reason I scrubbed my deck three times if it must be known was I tried to glue non slip rubber matting down but the water got underneath and it made an 'orrible mess and couldn't be cleaned easily so ripped it all up and went down the paint option which is much cheaper and you can just touch up any scratches at the end of the season.
Pete
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07 May 2004, 09:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete7
the paint option which is much cheaper and you can just touch up any scratches at the end of the season.
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Don't listen to Pete7 hes full of it (red marks all round boy's) you can touch it up anytime you want to!
I think the above advice covers it but you really do have to get a good key so don't be timid with the abrasive.
If you do a good job you can come down and do mine if you want to!
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07 May 2004, 09:23
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right then , grit additive it is! thanks for all your advice
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07 May 2004, 23:51
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ive used anti slip addatives in paint for steps before and i think youll find
The grit addative is nothing more than kiln dried silversand , much cheaper if bought from toys are us or early learning.
Alistair
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