|
18 March 2009, 11:26
|
#1
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dartmouth
Boat name: Puffling
Make: Avon Rover 3.4m
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 15hp
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 404
|
Pair of 40hps if you want a twin setup..
I have always thought about a twin set up on a 5.4m searider, but never found engines I want, now found engines but no boat.. but if you have thought about re-engining there are these two..
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F203389
twin forty mariners for £1400.. sounds good..
__________________
Advanced Power Boat Instructor
|
|
|
18 March 2009, 11:40
|
#2
|
Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
|
agreed
I might pursue these for my 4.7 project. Jasper put a pair of 30's on a 4.7 about 2 yars ago for a customer and I always wanted to do it for me!
__________________
|
|
|
18 March 2009, 14:22
|
#3
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dartmouth
Boat name: Puffling
Make: Avon Rover 3.4m
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 15hp
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 404
|
Weight issue..
I know the 4.7 is only rated for twin 30's, but it also depends on the weight, these two look like the older style 30/40 block 2 cylinder models rather than the 3 cylinder heavier models..
I am doing the same with this little Avon S3.45 at the moment. Putting a model 40c tohatsu on the back which weighs 61kg as oppossed to the 25 yamaha on there at the moment which weighs 59kg.. but the equivalent 3 cylinder tohatsu 40 weighs another 10 - 15 kilos.
__________________
Advanced Power Boat Instructor
|
|
|
18 March 2009, 16:46
|
#4
|
Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Riberty
Make: xs 650
Length: 6m +
Engine: suzuki 175
MMSI: 235063328
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 377
|
Long time ago i used to use a Avon 5.4 with twin yam 40's on the back it was a good set up but did land stern heavy.
Oh, i want twins again, not the ones that are about to come in from school and clear the cupboards ... petrol ones would be much cheaper and fourstrokes a lot quieter lol
__________________
|
|
|
18 March 2009, 19:18
|
#5
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,951
|
Trouble is an Avon will be sooooo slow with twin 40s and manual start, that will be fun on a cold winter morning
An avon would be a wee bit quicker with this on the back
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/PRA027
Pete
__________________
.
Ribnet is best viewed on a computer of some sort
|
|
|
18 March 2009, 23:35
|
#6
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dartmouth
Boat name: Puffling
Make: Avon Rover 3.4m
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 15hp
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 404
|
But....
You can not spin in a circle with that relic 85 on the back..
__________________
Advanced Power Boat Instructor
|
|
|
18 March 2009, 23:42
|
#7
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dartmouth
Boat name: Puffling
Make: Avon Rover 3.4m
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 15hp
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 404
|
To quote...
Trouble is an Avon will be sooooo slow with twin 40s and manual start..
Speaking of slow Pete!! Didn't you have a Diesel Pac 22!!
Have you still got that Crazy Tohatsu with the 150 on the back?
__________________
Advanced Power Boat Instructor
|
|
|
19 March 2009, 00:32
|
#8
|
Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
|
ha ha
If I want to go fast I'll borrow your Tohatsu? I'm very much into RIB Dressage nowadays.
I'd have to have my pockets very full of Oil money and my tummy very full of Hennessy to pay 1200 quid for a 23 year old 2 stroke
__________________
|
|
|
19 March 2009, 02:21
|
#9
|
Member
Country: Other
Make: Ribtec
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha F225
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 411
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
I'd have to have my pockets very full of Oil money and my tummy very full of Hennessy to pay 1200 quid for a 23 year old
|
Sounds like you're taking the "Dressage" thing to it's limits.....
Roguetta still wearing the trousers in your house then ?
ATB
__________________
|
|
|
19 March 2009, 05:22
|
#10
|
Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
|
Thank you Brian
I was hoping somebody would bite on that! gArf's been no fun since his lobotomy!
ATB to you and yours also
__________________
|
|
|
19 March 2009, 15:12
|
#11
|
Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: West of Scotland
Make: humber
Length: 5m +
Engine: 100
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 92
|
twin 30's
I worked a 5.4 searider with twin 30's, and they were elec start, but manual tilt, wasn't a bother, and the boat was excellent with them on. much better than a single 50 on another one,
C.
__________________
|
|
|
19 March 2009, 16:51
|
#12
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,951
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by badbaws
You can not spin in a circle with that relic 85 on the back
|
There is a small round chap in Sarfhampton who should be able to show you how to spin a small rib with 85 hp on the back.
Quote:
Speaking of slow Pete!! Didn't you have a Diesel Pac 22!!
|
Yep and it did 30 knots which is more than we ever got out of a BWM with twin 40s.
Quote:
Have you still got that Crazy Tohatsu with the 150 on the back?
|
Pete
__________________
.
Ribnet is best viewed on a computer of some sort
|
|
|
19 March 2009, 19:41
|
#13
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
Boat name: Qudos
Make: 5.4 Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 115 V4
MMSI: 235068784
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,930
|
__________________
|
|
|
19 March 2009, 21:40
|
#14
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dartmouth
Boat name: Puffling
Make: Avon Rover 3.4m
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 15hp
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 404
|
Difference being..
I think Rogue Wave was talking about putting the twin 40hps on a 4.7m rather than a 5.4m, we know twin 40's loose about 20% power for twin set up so on a 5.4 you would be running at 64hp on a boat that can take 90, or as some people do 150hp.. whereas 64hp on a boat designed to take 70.. only a small drop in HP.
So would be a good project to see I think.. plus if one engine breaks you can still get back..
__________________
Advanced Power Boat Instructor
|
|
|
19 March 2009, 23:41
|
#15
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Essex/Vendee
Boat name: shockwave,Voluntry 2
Make: Pac 22/ searider5.4
Length: 6m +
Engine: 180hp turbo,yam 90
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,022
|
How about this
__________________
|
|
|
20 March 2009, 10:22
|
#16
|
Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,951
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by badbaws
So would be a good project to see I think.. plus if one engine breaks you can still get back..
|
So would be a terrible project to see I think...
Afterall a 40 hp mariner weighs about 80 kgs. So two of them would be the equivalent weight of JSPs 115 Yam v4. On the back of a 4.7m Avon
Might be worth launching the boat and have two fat blokes sit on the back as a trial before going ahead and purchasing. Give them a paddle each to represent the top speed you would get with twin 40s too
Heavy steering, lots of easy start on a cold morning to get them going, expensive to run and a top speed of 20 knots hmm or fit a nice 3 cylinder Yam or Tohatsu and have a really good sporty little rib. Now if we just knew of a Tohatsu 90 that could be fettled for a few quid this could be an easy project to complete. Someone might even throw in a white console for the project
Pete
__________________
.
Ribnet is best viewed on a computer of some sort
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|