Paper charts

mick · 06 January 2012, 19:43

Is there much difference in Imray and Admiralty charts

was thinking about getting some imray 2000 charts open to advice though

whisper · 06 January 2012, 19:57

Hi, I just picked up a whole pile of charts and books etc secondhand and I am very pleased with them all. They are Imray, Stanfords and Admiralty charts, by the looks of it the Admiralty (small craft series) chart is a larger scale than the imray ones. If you need me to check anything I have the following charts:

Imray
C15 THE SOLENT
C4 NEEDLES CHANNEL - BILL OF PORTLAND
C9 BEACHY HEAD - ISLE OF WIGHT
C6 SALCOMBE - LIZARD POINT
C10 WESTERN ENGLISH CHANNEL PASSAGE CHART (X2)
C3 ISLE OF WIGHT
C5 BILL OF PORTLAND - SALCOMBE HARBOUR
C12 EASTERN ENGLISH CHANNEL

ADMIRALTY CHART 2611 POOLE HARBOUR AND APPROACHES
STANFORDS HARBOUR CHART 10 CHICHESTER - PORTSMOUTH
STANFORDS CHART 16 THE CHANNEL ISLANDS

martini · 06 January 2012, 20:09

Out of interest you can buy second hand charts of various grades/updates etc from here:

Marine Chart Services

I've bought from there, excellent service, the charts were in great nick, just the odd pencil mark etc, some were like new.

Second hand Admiralty charts, corrected up to the date of purchase for £13 instead of nearly £23 for a new one = bargain I reckon

Smithyyy · 06 January 2012, 20:14

The Admiralty folios are a good buy - typically 12-15 or so charts of various sizes/scales to cover a given area, harbours, etc, for £40-something. And they come in a nice clear plastic folder that gives you sometng at least spray-proof to hold them in on a rb!

willk · 06 January 2012, 20:17

I reckon Imray are the charts to carry on a RIB. They're compact and water resistant and have enough detail to get you where you need to go.

However, if you're doing survey work or whatever, I'd go Admiralty, dunno why, I just find them easier to get my head around. Maybe it's because they have so much large scale stuff...?

whisper · 06 January 2012, 20:21

Yep, secondhand charts are cool as they are quite hardy as they are sort of waterproof and rip proof. The old pencil lines can be quite interesting too.

martini · 06 January 2012, 20:23

Stick to what ya know is my motto as far as which firm to go with.

For ribbing purposes laminated copies of the chartlets found in the Reeds Almanac are pretty handy although these probably wouldn't allow you to plot courses etc from one destination to another

Poly · 06 January 2012, 21:22

I have to say I agree with Willk. I actually prefer Admiralty charts (clarity, detail, colours etc) but for practicality use the Imray charts on my boat (size, water resistance, scale etc seem sensible for an open boat doing 20 knots). For West Coast of Scotland its backed up by the relevant Yacht Pilot / Clyde Cruising Club navigation guide - which has large scale chartlets for entering ancorages/"ports".

Puffin · 07 January 2012, 19:16

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Originally Posted by Polwart

I have to say I agree with Willk. I actually prefer Admiralty charts (clarity, detail, colours etc) but for practicality use the Imray charts on my boat (size, water resistance, scale etc seem sensible for an open boat doing 20 knots). For West Coast of Scotland its backed up by the relevant Yacht Pilot / Clyde Cruising Club navigation guide - which has large scale chartlets for entering ancorages/"ports".

Agreed, I keep a set of Imray charts on the RIB, but use admiralty charts for planning at home. The portfolios are good value but its also useful to have some of the larger charts for passage planning.

tim griffin · 07 January 2012, 19:24

UK Wide Harbour Pilotage, View Full Size Marine Charts Online £25 membership for life worlwide portfolio of Admiralty charts can georeference them for planning/plotting never more than a year old can print them off and then laminate them (Use matt laminate sheets so you can write on them) .
Imray also very good .
Tim

jambo · 07 January 2012, 20:04

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Originally Posted by tim griffin

UK Wide Harbour Pilotage, View Full Size Marine Charts Online £25 membership for life worlwide portfolio of Admiralty charts can georeference them for planning/plotting never more than a year old can print them off and then laminate them (Use matt laminate sheets so you can write on them) .
Imray also very good .
Tim

+1. I have been using them for over a year. Grt download/ copy to a4 size keep in wallet on rib.
J

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SeaSkills · 08 January 2012, 12:00

I've used them on the Clyde, but unfortunately their idea of "West Scotland" doesn't come North of there

HUMBER P4VWL · 08 January 2012, 16:27

Admiralty Tough charts are produced for certain areas and are excellent.

Waterproof, A4 ring bound charts for heavily used areas. They do them for Solent, N Wales Llyn and Anglesey etc and a couple of other areas.

Excellent for open boats.

jambo · 08 January 2012, 17:11

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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL

Admiralty Tough charts are produced for certain areas and are excellent.

Waterproof, A4 ring bound charts for heavily used areas. They do them for Solent, N Wales Llyn and Anglesey etc and a couple of other areas.

Excellent for open boats.

Yep your right Paul but unfortunately thet have stopped them

J

jambo · 08 January 2012, 17:22

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Originally Posted by SeaSkills

I've used them on the Clyde, but unfortunately their idea of "West Scotland" doesn't come North of there

I take your point re their coverage of the harbours & marinas is limited to the clyde. but I did challenge them on this fact and was advised that they are working on extending as fast as they can, they are looking for local boaters to compile info on an area basis. The chart coverage is good though and the ability to overload to Earth and download using their print screen capture is excellent and allows you to magnify certain areas for carrying on board in laminates.
Just my opinion.
J

HUMBER P4VWL · 08 January 2012, 17:55

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Originally Posted by jambo

Yep your right Paul but unfortunately thet have stopped them

J

What a shame. Any second hand ones possibly?

I thought they'd continue, surely economical if sold out. Doubt they were sold at a loss

jambo · 08 January 2012, 18:02

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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL

What a shame. Any second hand ones possibly?

I thought they'd continue, surely economical if sold out. Doubt they were sold at a loss

Yes you will always see 2nd hand ones on Ebay from time to time. I forget their reasoning but it is on their sight if I remember they wanted people to change to their electronic maps ie discs.

B