Pilot 275n life jackets.

[kerny]

Anybody got one of these, is it worth the money.

Cheers.

inflatable life jackets Pilot 275N | eBay

[tony t]

Originally Posted by kerny

Anybody got one of these, is it worth the money.

Cheers.

inflatable life jackets Pilot 275N | eBay

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[kerny]

Originally Posted by kerny

Anybody got one of these, is it worth the money.

Cheers.

inflatable life jackets Pilot 275N | eBay

No replys , I guess not.

[SeaSkills]

Plastimo stuff is usually fairly OK, but I would want to ask the following;

- why would you want 275N? Depends what you're wearing, but 150N will often be enough. An inflated 275N jacket is a big thing

- I'd want to add crotch straps and a light to the standard spec, so would be adding the cost of those to my budget

[BruceB]

You can't have a big enough lifejacket if you fall in the water, I would be asking then "is it big enough?"

Seriously though, we use them because it is receommended if you are wearing a flotation suit, 150N isn't enough

[Poly]

Originally Posted by BruceB

You can't have a big enough lifejacket if you fall in the water, I would be asking then "is it big enough?"

Seriously though, we use them because it is receommended if you are wearing a flotation suit, 150N isn't enough

Bruce, apparently much harder to board a liferaft wearing 275n if not wearing heavy clothes, and presumably therefore to get back in a rib. Army cadet incident also highlighted risk of too much buoyancy, although very unlikely to be entrapped.

[SPR]

yes - I can confirm near impossible getting into liferaft with 275n, but only issue if you have a liferaft to get into!

if your wearing a dry suit or anything with bounancy a 275n is the only jacket that will right you , 150 n might but then might again not.

The cadet incident was a 480 N lifejacket eek!

S.

[tony t]

if your wearing a dry suit or anything with bounancy a 275n is the only jacket that will right you ,

So your saying a 190n won't then

[kerny]

Originally Posted by SPR

yes - I can confirm near impossible getting into liferaft with 275n, but only issue if you have a liferaft to get into!

if your wearing a dry suit or anything with bounancy a 275n is the only jacket that will right you , 150 n might but then might again not.

The cadet incident was a 480 N lifejacket eek!

S.

so if wearing a surface dry suit, is a 275n the best to get then SPR ??

[Poly]

Originally Posted by SPR

yes - I can confirm near impossible getting into liferaft with 275n, but only issue if you have a liferaft to get into!

Except that if it is hard to get into a liferaft it is presumably hard to get into a RIB. Given that the only people I have ever personally seen fall in the water accidentally from a RIB have been in harbours / moorings / getting onto jetties / etc - then their is a real risk you are in the water and unable to get back out. If you are single handed that could be a real issue. Now deflating a lifejacket is an option to help, but by the time you get to that point you are probably cold and tired which is precisely when deflating it is a bad idea.

if your wearing a dry suit or anything with bounancy a 275n is the only jacket that will right you , 150 n might but then might again not.

Its the only thing that promises to do it (tests are all based on dummies in calm pools anyway so nothing is guaranteed in the real world). Personal experience (after I, em, tested mine!) is that a 150N standard jacket worn on top of a flotation suit is basically impossible to get the wrong way up (in pretty calm conditions). I'm not suggesting others copy this but it deprioritised looking at getting a 275N jacket for me.

However Iain's point about crotch straps is particularly valid (even a "trivial" swim in the marina with help on hand could be really unpleasant with the jacket rising up). I find my light doesn't pack away neatly in the jacket so I tend to only fit it if I am expecting to be out in dark / dusk - there is probably a poor assumption there.

[tony t]

Originally Posted by kerny

so if wearing a surface dry suit, is a 275n the best to get then SPR ??

Thats why i brought the Crewsaver 190n that little bit extra than 150n i didn't fancy a 275n round my neck all day

[willk]

Originally Posted by tony t

Thats why i brought the Crewsaver 190n that little bit extra than 150n i didn't fancy a 275n round my neck all day

The Black Shadow wanted a little something extra for the weekend

[tony t]

Originally Posted by willk

The Black Shadow wanted a little something extra for the weekend

as to be a good fit

waiting for kerny,s comments now

[kerny]

Originally Posted by willk

The Black Shadow wanted a little something extra for the weekend

Don't know why The BS bothers...at his age it will more than likely be a puff of smoke puff.....

[tony t]

Originally Posted by kerny

Don't know why The BS bothers...at his age it will more than likely be a puff of smoke puff.....

don't get the Black Shadow

[SPR]

ISO Standards are 150N and 275 N, I wear a 275 N Lifejacket and my surface dry suit...

on the sea survival course I was the only personal on the course that could not drown then self. All 150 N lifejacket the person could temp turn them self over on face, some were 175N.

Some life jackets state a bigger size but rely on you to provide the extra top via The tube!

Yes - they are PitA to get in bost, hence after sea survival course I bought dry suit, and fitted narrow ladder to back of the boat to aid entry.

One trick if you fall overboard is if you can deflate your tube of the RIB to get back in.

lifejacket videos can be found on sailing club website;

http://www.eesc.org.uk/content/seasafetyvideos.html

these are self explanatory, also the cold shock boot camp.

I asked at my Lifejacket training course about 190N jackets and Drysuits and I was told recommend 275N.

I did my Sea Survival Course with SeaSkills.

Optional Extra's ; Crutch Straps, Lights and Stray Hoods are more essential if you want to survival in the water.

The think I do, the best lifejacket on the market is the one that you wear, don't buy anything without trying it on to see if it is comfortable...



regards


Scott

[kerny]

Originally Posted by SPR

ISO Standards are 150N and 275 N, I wear a 275 N Lifejacket and my surface dry suit...

on the sea survival course I was the only personal on the course that could not drown then self. All 150 N lifejacket the person could temp turn them self over on face, some were 175N.

Some life jackets state a bigger size but rely on you to provide the extra top via The tube!

Yes - they are PitA to get in bost, hence after sea survival course I bought dry suit, and fitted narrow ladder to back of the boat to aid entry.

One trick if you fall overboard is if you can deflate your tube of the RIB to get back in.

lifejacket videos can be found on sailing club website;

Sea Safety Videos - Elie & Earlsferry Sailing and Powerboating Club

these are self explanatory, also the cold shock boot camp.

I asked at my Lifejacket training course about 190N jackets and Drysuits and I was told recommend 275N.

I did my Sea Survival Course with SeaSkills.

Optional Extra's ; Crutch Straps, Lights and Stray Hoods are more essential if you want to survival in the water.

The think I do, the best lifejacket on the market is the one that you wear, don't buy anything without trying it on to see if it is comfortable...



regards


Scott

Thanks for that Scott, you would think that crotch straps would be fitted to all L/J as standard.

[HUMBER P4VWL]

None of ours has a crotch strap.

Do they fit to any auto inflater with waist and back strap?

[tony t]

[QUOTE=HUMBER P4VWL;439465]None of ours have a crotch strap.



Mine came with one also have a spray hood and PLB fitted to it

[SPR]

some good manufacturers do, some sea it as a revenue generator.

check crutch straps even when fitted and make sure they stay tighten when pulled, the number of jackets we see the buckle with strap the wrong is high.

Also look at what type of firing mechanisms it has, crewsaver user there own threads, price re-arming kits and buy a spare incase, you jacket goes off but mistake or you go for swim!

would be to have your jacket for that return journey deflated!

how easy it to buy the rearm kits, do you need to buy online or does your local shop stock it?

S.