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Old 13 January 2005, 07:58   #21
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Re. Jiggle Syphon

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The Jiggle syphons AKA Tossers Tubes or Fullers Fuelers are in my opinion prrof that research and development does serve a purpose! They are the most useful device you can have when fueling
Absolutely - and another benefit is that if you are syphoning from an on deck tank to a below deck tank and the filler is a reasonable height it will just stop syphoning when the tanks full without spilling any petrol

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Old 13 January 2005, 08:19   #22
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Using a funnel is all very well but sometimes there isn't room to stick in a funnel and even if you could, pouring from a regular 25 litre tank would be difficult without a dedicated spout thingy attached (like you get with some jerry cans). Those Jiggle syphons are a good idea but probably a little slow for filling up at sea?

I will probably go for the Plastimo tank that is shaped more like a jerry can, then I get the best of both worlds!

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SlimTim.... Understand your point, a friend of mine has his fuel filler cap located on the side of his consol, problem is its way to close to the tube to get a fuel pump in correctly and at a silly angle to be able to fit a funnel into, so he uses a funnel with a lenght of tube which reaches into the filler pipe leaving the funnel part above the top of the tube, this works ok on dry land but at sea its a night mare.
So to combat this he fills up full on land and in the comfort of a petrol station and if we go long distances carries spare fuel in a plastic 24l portable tank on the deck, this he can then connect into his existing fuel line should he run dry during the trip, this seems to work quite well.

My fuel tank is probably the best i've seen yet, it was made to measure and fits exactly under the seat, its capacity is 55lts which gives me a cruising range of 120 ish N miles the filler tube comes directly out the back of the seat and rises up above the top of the seat, this makes filling up really easy with no spills, i've even refilled at sea with great ease, there is a drain bolt at the bottom of the tank to drain it dry, the tank is held down by 4 heavy screws into wood plates on the deck and is a really easy job to remove for cleaning and maintenance, one of the first things i did was to cut an inspection hatch in the top making maintenance even easier.
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Old 16 January 2005, 08:59   #23
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Jiggle Syphons - ROY- Water Containers

Bought a "Jiggle Syphon" at boatshow last year. They were being sold in two sizes. The small one I reckined would be too slow so bought the bigger one. Problem is the jiggling bit won't fit through the neck of steel jerry-cans or for that matter the leaking old plastic ones I've got.

ROY - Do the seals on the heavy duty water containers work with petrol? If so where did you buy them?
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Old 16 January 2005, 18:46   #24
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Bought a "Jiggle Syphon" at boatshow last year. They were being sold in two sizes. The small one I reckined would be too slow so bought the bigger one. Problem is the jiggling bit won't fit through the neck of steel jerry-cans or for that matter the leaking old plastic ones I've got.

ROY - Do the seals on the heavy duty water containers work with petrol? If so where did you buy them?

when i questioned this point the chap simply pulls off the the small jiggle and fits to the the larger tube and proceeds to empty the can! works for me time taken to empty is not that much slower
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Old 16 January 2005, 20:23   #25
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The seals work fine i dont know where to get new ones from as my farther gave me the cans. nice thing is the opening is wide enough for the bigger of the two jiggle syphons to work, I will ask my farther where he got them from and post a reply later.
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Old 18 January 2005, 21:56   #26
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I've just got a combined bailer/funnel - as shown here for £3.95

http://www.towsure.com/default.asp?d=55&t=380&p=0&op=

With the end cap on its a bailer - take the cap off and stick it in the tank, the extra wide lip sticks out - easy to fill the main tank - even in the middle of the solent

Don't the Jiggle pumps only work if the tank your filling from is higher than your fuel filter? - Mine is quite high on the side of the console so don't think it would work too well....

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Old 18 January 2005, 22:25   #27
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Here you go. Plastimo Jerrycan that looks fuel tank or is that a fuel tank that looks like a Jerry can? 23l capacity.

Dont mess about with funnels and syphons, just stick the hose on, couple of squeezes and off you go.

http://www.plastimo.com/catalogue/pr...ID=1&ref=27264
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Old 19 January 2005, 08:14   #28
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Don't the Jiggle pumps only work if the tank your filling from is higher than your fuel filter? - Mine is quite high on the side of the console so don't think it would work too well....
Do you have a "filter" on the input to your tank or is that a typo which should read "filler".

If Filter - Dunno
If Filler - Works ok with ours

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Old 19 January 2005, 10:32   #29
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the tank you are taking petrol from just needs to be higher than the tank you are puting the petrol into...doesn't matter about the fuel filler ( I don't think)

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Old 22 January 2005, 05:23   #30
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Aligator - Jiggle Syphon

Hi there Aligator,

How does the small jiggle-thing fit to large tube? Have only got the big one but I suspect the tube is way too big for the smaller one.
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Old 22 January 2005, 05:28   #31
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Thanks Roy, would be very interested to hear where he got them from.
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Old 26 January 2005, 22:35   #32
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Too complicated.....

Hi guys,
in Germany we use a sort of plastic jerrycan that we call "Huehnersdorf Kanister". These are made from extra-thick black plastik and are very, very strong indeed- won`t even blow up in the hot sumer sun.... They hold 22 liters of fuel. Now the trick: They also make a removable device or armature that screws on these "Kanisters" in seconds, it has a little fuelfilter at its end which reaches all the way down into the can. So in case my built-in tank gets empty, I drag one of these black bastards out of it´s storage, plug and screw the armature in it, connect it to my fuel line, pump 3 times and off I go again- this will also work in a swell when you`re not able to pour anything into a regular tank-opening no more.....
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Old 27 January 2005, 23:35   #33
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-filling up- use a syphon and place the filling can higher than the main tank.
- Jerry cans metal - 25 liters. Dont worry about the legal side nobody knows
anyway.Use an earthing wire as well.

Besides you can have just as good" bang " with 10 liters as 25 liters - the only difference being the 10 liter "bang " will go on longer than the 25 liter bang. Incidently why do we call them "jerry" cans??- dont tell me the bosch
invented them!!!!!!!!!!!

If you want a 25 liter plastic can , go along to local garage friend and ask him for an empty 25 liter plastic oil can. Mind you these days I dont seem to have many garage friends left since I sold my A6 and brought a Sorento.
( which incidently will outrun a BMWX5, ANY LANDROVER, and pull 3000 kgs)

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Hi there Aligator,

How does the small jiggle-thing fit to large tube? Have only got the big one but I suspect the tube is way too big for the smaller one.
Hi Carlo
the the big tube fits over the whole jiggle which is bell shaped at the base making a push fit
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the bosch invented them!!!!!!!!!!
i downt fink sow yew belgy nobbur. thay innventid eelectrikal fings forr fkin carrs.


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I drag one of these black bastards out of it´s storage,
myne gott das iz virbowten


wee arr nott alowd too keap dem inn stawrij inn inglannd. i fink itts de stawrij ov innflamabul itums akt orr de rase relashuns akt orr sumfink lyke dat.

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Garfish ,clown I ment BOSCH as in "FROG" not the electrical lot............

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I could have sworn they made my jigsaw!

Nah, that was Fisher Price
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