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20 May 2007, 09:33
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Plastic Petrol Cans
Can anyone recommend a good plastic jerry/petrol can for carrying spare fuel?
I have some 25l plastic cans but they leak around the caps when shaken about (and always have done from new!).
Was considering these from ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jerry-can-20L-...QQcmdZViewItem
As they should stay upright better than the tall jerry can types, but I'm worried they will leak like the ones I've got!
Any thoughts?
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20 May 2007, 09:45
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Is it not feasable to carry an extra tank like this on its end?
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20 May 2007, 09:48
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We could do.... but it would need to be plumbed into the main fuel line somehow as we wouldn't be able to pour out of that into the underfloor tank very easily!
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20 May 2007, 09:58
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Syphon pipe? That's assuming you can rest it higher than your filler cap.
It'd be less messy than pouring from a jerry can.
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20 May 2007, 10:22
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I got 3 of these, pretty good design for filling our internal tanks on the water because of the screw on spout, and no cap leakage so far. May not be so good for deck level filling though? They are made by Plastimo (model 39649), but may be discontinued, got mine from http://stores.ebay.de/wwvv-sea-sport...assersportshop
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20 May 2007, 10:25
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There is quite a nifty solution to your problem. Plastimo make a fuel can jerry can which is 25 litres and has a fuelconnector and a jerry can lid with a closeable vent.
have a fuel connector fitted to the extra input on your filter and have a fuel pipe that snaps between can and filter when needed.
I have to go but I'll dig out the part no's later
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20 May 2007, 12:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alexm
Can anyone recommend a good plastic jerry/petrol can for carrying spare fuel?
I have some 25l plastic cans but they leak around the caps when shaken about (and always have done from new!).
Was considering these from ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jerry-can-20L-...QQcmdZViewItem
As they should stay upright better than the tall jerry can types, but I'm worried they will leak like the ones I've got!
Any thoughts?
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I've got a couple of them have found them to be good and the spout stores in the neck of the can
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20 May 2007, 19:34
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part no of jerycan/Tank is plaSTIMO 27264
HOSE AND PRIMER BULB IS 17574 ( i SEEM TO HAVE TOUCHED THE CAPs lock button)
and you will need two hose connectors 39308
and two tank connectors 39307
most chandlers can supply plastimo Kit
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20 May 2007, 19:37
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Thanks guys!
Looks like Plastimo is the way forward then!
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20 May 2007, 20:11
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Apart from the fact that petrol stations are not licensed to sell petrol in any quantity larger than 5 litres if its a plastic can....
Some do enforce this quite heavily!
Simon
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20 May 2007, 20:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by havener
Apart from the fact that petrol stations are not licensed to sell petrol in any quantity larger than 5 litres if its a plastic can....
Some do enforce this quite heavily!
Simon
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Is that right?
It's got to be said that I'm not one for bureaucratic nonsense... I think I'll take my chances! Certainly not had any problems filling up two 25l plastic cans before...
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20 May 2007, 20:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by havener
Apart from the fact that petrol stations are not licensed to sell petrol in any quantity larger than 5 litres if its a plastic can....
Some do enforce this quite heavily!
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Fortunately most are unaware of it. They are also not supposed to dispense more than 10L into a metal container - so with a normal jerry can you have to half fill it - then go in and pay - then fill the rest.
I reckon if they got funny about it they would soon give up if you kept doing that!!!
Personally I have NEVER had such a problem.
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20 May 2007, 20:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Fortunately most are unaware of it. They are also not supposed to dispense more than 10L into a metal container - so with a normal jerry can you have to half fill it - then go in and pay - then fill the rest.
I reckon if they got funny about it they would soon give up if you kept doing that!!!
Personally I have NEVER had such a problem.
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Never had a problem either filling removable boat tanks. Someone once told me that the traditional red tanks were portable tanks and not "fuel cans" under the rules and thus the limit didn't apply - not sure if that is the case or not.
Cod the rules are for the size of container you can fill (5L plastic, 10L metal) not for the volume you can dispense into a container.
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20 May 2007, 22:06
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have had issues with the staff in filling stations in the past… however last week managed to fire 160L into a trailer containing a wide selection of both fuel tanks, 5 and 20L “jerry cans”
was quite surprise we did not get the normal interrogation.
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20 May 2007, 23:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by havener
Apart from the fact that petrol stations are not licensed to sell petrol in any quantity larger than 5 litres if its a plastic can....
Some do enforce this quite heavily!
Simon
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I guess that's just the sort of challenge that brings the Rogue out in me.!
you'll get more grief in a supermarket fuel station than in a local garage
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20 May 2007, 23:28
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I find that even supermarkets don't kick off if you fill the tanks while they are in the boat
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22 May 2007, 14:22
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That will save any rust building up like it did in the old cans. More RIB friendly as well.
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22 May 2007, 15:01
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Just a thought, if you have a spare 'outboard' type 20l tank with a hose to fit the outboard, you are covered in case of failure of your onboard fuel system, contamination etc. etc.
We carry spare fuel this way for just that reason and we have an adaptor to use either 'boat' fuel or 'spare' fuel in the auxilliary engine.
Belt and braces, maybe, but comforting on a long run.
Tony
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22 May 2007, 16:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JABS
Just a thought, if you have a spare 'outboard' type 20l tank with a hose to fit the outboard, you are covered in case of failure of your onboard fuel system, contamination etc. etc.
We carry spare fuel this way for just that reason and we have an adaptor to use either 'boat' fuel or 'spare' fuel in the auxilliary engine.
Belt and braces, maybe, but comforting on a long run.
Tony
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Given that most engine failures / breakdowns are to do with the fuel system, this is an excellent way of doing it....bit harder with us though, the big boat carries 1800 tonnes of bunker fuel!!
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