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21 October 2020, 15:36
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Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
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Plywood alternative - Seat bases
One of my winter jobs on my RIB is to re-upholster the jockey seats.
I'm thinking of not reinstalling the rear bench seat as my new(to me) Opti 225 has added a lot of weight to the rear of the boat and it will offset most of it.
Anyway, I made the seat bases @14yrs ago from marine ply, and coated them in loads of varnish. They are still in pretty good condition, but some spots of Black mould are beginning to appear.
I've always had an aversion to wood on boats like a RIB, and would like to replace them with a non-maintenance alternative.
Has anyone found an alternative man-made material with the strength of Ply, a thinner section, and that can be screwed and stapled to?
I'm more than happy to create a Female mould and make a pair in Fibreglass, but I'm not sure I'll be able to staple the upholstery to it.
Thoughts anyone?
has a new wonder material passed this grumpy old luddite by?
My best solution at the moment looks like Fibreglass but I'll have to try my staple gun on a scrap piece.
Nasher.
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21 October 2020, 16:12
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
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I used liquid epoxy on mine, they seemed to be fine on the Ballistic.
Nugent was talking about Foamex a few years ago. Might be worth asking if he tried it?
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21 October 2020, 17:14
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Country: UK - England
Town: South West
Make: Zapcat
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50 tohatsu
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There’s a great product in the states called coosa they use for transom etc. Couldn’t find stock local to me though when I did the zap cat floor.
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21 October 2020, 20:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
Make: Halmatic P22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Inboard Diesel 240HP
MMSI: 235115642
Join Date: Sep 2015
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I looked into this for mine and fixated on whatever the material is that they use for motorcycle seats.
I found this guide:
https://www.offbeatbikesmagazine.co....iy-seat-making
Some suspension seats came my way so I never actaually went through with it.
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21 October 2020, 20:49
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Country: Ireland
Boat name: Ocean Escapes
Make: Excalibur
Length: 9m +
Engine: 150Yamaha&300Verado
Join Date: Jan 2007
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We run a number of Safari RIBs and we only use one thing for our seats and have never had any problems with rot, we use 3/4 inch foam board, this is used for signs and is very easy to work, a jig saw cuts very easily and be sure to use a router on the edges to stop the sharp edges cutting through the new leatherette. Materials for seat coverings and covers can be purchased through point north fabrics.
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21 October 2020, 21:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Boat name: El Mono
Make: Ribtec 9M
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yanmar 315/Bravo III
Join Date: Aug 2012
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I was literally gathering quotes from local places here for retrimming the seats my RIB this week, and if they are replacing bases at least one quote included "Foamalux" bases, which is presumably the same as Andrew is describing above.
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21 October 2020, 21:15
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Scotland
Boat name: Clyde adventurer
Make: Humber
Length: 8m +
Engine: Twin Merc 150 4str
Join Date: May 2015
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I redid mine recently and went through the same thought process. In the end I decided that(like yours) my ply bases had outlasted the material and I was overthinking it so bought a sheet of marine ply and a tin of varnish and off again for another 15 years or so [emoji4]
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21 October 2020, 21:15
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Cesa
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2013
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+1 for foamex
Made a couple of seat bases with the stuff. Very easy to cut, shape, drill, screw, glue, etc.
Prob need a good thickness ( 3/4” as previously suggested ) but light weight.
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21 October 2020, 21:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: Nottinghamshire
Make: Ranieri 15
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki DF50
Join Date: Jul 2016
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I recall staying at a caravan site where they had a rot proof timber substitute for the EHU points. I spent a few minutes on DuckDuckGo search engine and came up with this supplier:
https://www.recycledplasticbuildingm...0-x-d25mm.html
There's also something called Stormboard which is £72 a 25mm thickness sheet.
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21 October 2020, 21:39
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Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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Thanks all.
I like the idea of using a cutting board, but it would need to be quite large to do my double jockeys.
I'll have a look for Foamex whilst I'm supposed to be working from home in the morning.
Nasher
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22 October 2020, 07:21
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Country: UK - England
Town: Kent
Boat name: ever dry
Make: Elling KB350
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yamaha 15hp 2 stroke
Join Date: Jun 2020
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I'm late to this party but wonder if this would be of use wpc decking board.
https://www.wpc-decking.co.uk/4m-sol...-decking-board
There is a free sample pack available from them if need be.
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22 October 2020, 08:05
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
Join Date: Jan 2004
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The Plastic wood substitute boards are a good idea, but none of the sizes I've seen are wide enough to create a jockey base with one piece, and I'd rather not have a join in there if possible.
Nasher
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22 October 2020, 08:57
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Country: UK - England
Town: N. Devon
Boat name: (Not Another) Nutkin
Make: Highfield
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard, Honda 135
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At 24cm must be getting close, not so sure my base board is much wider.
https://www.deckingsuperstore.co.uk/...d_Classic.html
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22 October 2020, 09:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
The Plastic wood substitute boards are a good idea, but none of the sizes I've seen are wide enough to create a jockey base with one piece, and I'd rather not have a join in there if possible.
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i use these guys near me engineering plastics i see they have foamex they have a cutting service too
https://www.trentplastics.co.uk/
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22 October 2020, 11:09
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Country: UK - England
Town: Nottinghamshire
Make: Ranieri 15
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki DF50
Join Date: Jul 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
The Plastic wood substitute boards are a good idea, but none of the sizes I've seen are wide enough to create a jockey base with one piece, and I'd rather not have a join in there if possible.
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You didn't follow my links to sheet material then
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22 October 2020, 12:15
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Limecc
You didn't follow my links to sheet material then
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Sorry Limecc, I did, but at £95 inc delivery for a 1000 x 1000 x 25mm sheet I soon blotted it from my memory.
Nasher.
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22 October 2020, 15:24
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Country: Ireland
Make: Osprey
Length: 7m +
Engine: 2 x 200
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Buddy of mine just finished reupholstering his powerboat using 10mm Palboard for the seat bases, worked out well...light, easy to cut, staple etc & seems strong enough for his needs...I used an off cut to repair a backrest on a rib and again worked nicely...his brother is in the printing industry which is where he got it.
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22 October 2020, 16:21
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Country: UK - England
Town: Nottinghamshire
Make: Ranieri 15
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki DF50
Join Date: Jul 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
Sorry Limecc, I did, but at £95 inc delivery for a 1000 x 1000 x 25mm sheet I soon blotted it from my memory.
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Wow £31 (+vat) delivery charge is almost as much as the cost of the sheet. Maybe you have a local supplier and can collect in person now you know this type of product exists?
Incidentally if you could collect enough HDPE such as commonly used for milk and pop containers, they can be moulded into sheet material on a baking tray using a precise oven temperature. There's many YouTube videos of people doing this. Here's the first example that came up in a search:
https://youtu.be/kUR6_bQLU-E
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24 October 2020, 06:31
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Town: Colchester
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Many boats that are hundreds of years old are made from wood. I think overthinking is the key word in this thread
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24 October 2020, 13:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
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Buffalo board?
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