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05 September 2001, 07:12
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Porpoising
Is porpoising dangerous or just annoying ?
Is it the result of weight distribution or can it be the result of
overpowering as well ?
Regards
Dimitris
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05 September 2001, 07:15
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Okay, just to prove that I'm always the one to ask an apparently daft question, what exactly is porpoising?
Keith Hart
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05 September 2001, 07:23
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It is a continous up and down movement of the bow even when the water is dead calm
Dimitris
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05 September 2001, 07:27
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Thanks, I just knew there would be a simple answer. If it happens to me now at least I'll know what to call it!
Keith Hart
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05 September 2001, 07:28
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![chuckle](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif) Oh, sorry, I forgot to ask....what does 'dead calm' mean?
Keith Hart
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05 September 2001, 07:52
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Go to Hotribs.com and there is an article within the section this link takes you to about the subject (features section)
http://www.hotribs.com/members/default.cfm
Paul
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05 September 2001, 08:05
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To save you arriving at HotRIBs then casting round wondering what on earth to click on next, here are some direct links:
Porpoising article
Trimming devices part 1
Trimming devices part 2
If your RIB is porpoising it generally means that it is not set up correctly, and is not running as efficiently as it could. It may simply be a matter of having the engine trimmed too far out, or it may be something more fundamental in the setup of the boat.
At lowish speeds it's not a big deal (although annoying) at high speeds it can become dangerous as the oscillations grow in size and more control is lost.
John
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05 September 2001, 10:38
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Dimitris,
I don't think that over power could have this result.
Michael
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05 September 2001, 19:05
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Thanks for the responses.
The links to hotrib provided me with an understanding of the phenomenon and it's posible solutions.
As of next week, I am starting the project of re-distributing weights on my boat.
All the problems started when I added a second 90 liter tank.
Regards
Dimitris
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06 September 2001, 11:19
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Dimitris,
Where did you installed the 90 lit. tank ?
Michael
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07 September 2001, 07:10
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I have two 90lt tanks both under the deck.
The first is in the middle of the boat.
Later I added a second 90 lt tank just after the first and towards the back of the boat. It is between my back bench and the console.
I think I already found the solution. I am planning to present later a case study of the problem, and make it an example of bad weight distribution on a small RIB.
Dimitris
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07 September 2001, 07:57
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Dimitris,
From the full lenght of your boat and the positions of the tanks, I assume that the total weight is far towards to the stern. I know that it's rather immpossible to relocate the tanks, so I think that you should have to live with it. The exact triming AND the correct speed is the answer.
Michael
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07 September 2001, 08:03
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Michael,
I am planning to take out the second 90lt. tank and replace it
with a new 50 lt tank positioned in front of the middle tank towrds the bow of the boat.
Dimitris
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07 September 2001, 08:31
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Dimitris,
That's the best thing to do. I have one 120 l installed just behind the anchors locker, 45 cm behind the very bow.
Michael
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10 September 2001, 06:39
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Dimitris,
Where do you launch your rib usually ?
Most of the time I sail in Saronic gulf, Gaidouronisi, Egina or Makronisos at the oposite side etc.
Michael
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10 September 2001, 17:11
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Member
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Michael,
I usually launch my boat in the south evoikos gulf, but I would not
mind trying the saronikos gulf.
If you want we can arrange going out for ribbing together through
private messaging or e-mail.
Dimitris
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