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13 May 2009, 08:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Shrewsbury
Boat name: Pepsea
Make: Tohatsu 6.6m
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mariner 150
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 69
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Porthcawl insurance
To pick up on a recent thread, I too have just had a qoute of Porthcawl for some insurance, They are the cheapest I could find bit quite a bit.
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13 May 2009, 09:28
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: N. Pembrokeshire
Boat name: Various
Make: RIBs & Hovercraft
Length: 9m +
Engine: Outboards
MMSI: Various
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,358
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To throw my two penneth in, i too have just taken out insurance with Porthcawl. Really helpful and significantly cheaper than other quotes I received (for the same level of cover as far as i can see).
Dan
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13 May 2009, 09:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
Boat name: Qudos
Make: 5.4 Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 115 V4
MMSI: 235068784
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,930
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Yep, £110 for the year!
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13 May 2009, 10:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,299
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bugger, you beat me John, Porthcawl £135 p/a
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13 May 2009, 10:18
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
Boat name: Qudos
Make: 5.4 Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 115 V4
MMSI: 235068784
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,930
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You can't moan at £135 either can ya mate?
Mine covers me for it being left on a mooring from April to October too. I'm already insured with another company but when I asked for a price to update my policy for it to live on it's new mooring the price increase made it cheaper to give Porthcawl a bell.
Just hope if the worst happens (touch wood) that they pay out!
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13 May 2009, 10:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,217
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I'm with em too. My little SR4 left on a mooring fully comp during the season then third party fire and theft in the winter and fully comp if out of the water, can't remember how much but were the cheapest and actually had an idea what I was talking about.
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13 May 2009, 13:51
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Easdale
Boat name: Miss Isle
Make: Solent 6.9
Length: 6m +
Engine: 225 optimax
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,427
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I'm about to go with them at £146.50 no no claims but still a good price, fully comp
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13 May 2009, 18:28
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
MMSI: ex directory!!
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 6,203
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Hi I am glad some folks are getting good deals from them but I have tried them twice over the last two years latest last month an they are no cheaper than Euromarine who I have been with for six years now. is there a secret to your quot info thats allowing you to be quoted such big reductions?
J
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13 May 2009, 22:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
Boat name: Qudos
Make: 5.4 Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 115 V4
MMSI: 235068784
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,930
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Don't think so J.
Think it's down to location mostly?
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13 May 2009, 23:32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
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Originally Posted by JSP
Just hope if the worst happens (touch wood) that they pay out!
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They? Just think about who handles the claim if you're unfortunate enough to have to make one. The broker? (in this case Porthcawl) - No. The Underwriter? - Yes. Who's underwriting these policies? I hope for your sakes it isn't Aviva.
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14 May 2009, 07:30
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: N. Pembrokeshire
Boat name: Various
Make: RIBs & Hovercraft
Length: 9m +
Engine: Outboards
MMSI: Various
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,358
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Mine is underwritten by Norwich Union..........have had succesful dealings with them in the past (although not for marine insurance).
D.
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14 May 2009, 07:33
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Worth
Mine is underwritten by Norwich Union........
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And who owns Norwich Union?
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14 May 2009, 08:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,951
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No idea Richard, so instead of playing guessing games perhaps you would like to enlighten us what the problem is with one of the major UK insurers. Or is they have turned down your claim for a puncture on a pram which caused all the toys to fall out.
Are you out on the boat this year ?
Pete
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14 May 2009, 09:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading
Boat name: N/A
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Verado 200
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 55
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Originally Posted by Pete7
No idea Richard, so instead of playing guessing games perhaps you would like to enlighten us what the problem is with one of the major UK insurers. Or is they have turned down your claim for a puncture on a pram which caused all the toys to fall out.
Are you out on the boat this year ?
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If I recall the TV advert correctly: "Aviva is the new name for Norwich Union"
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14 May 2009, 11:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,217
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard B
And who owns Norwich Union?
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Seems to be that time of the month judging by some of his recent posts.
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14 May 2009, 13:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
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Originally Posted by TangoTango
If I recall the TV advert correctly: "Aviva is the new name for Norwich Union"
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Thank you. You are of course correct. The information is on their web site and has been on their documents and stationery for some years.
I answered this thread to get people to think for themselves, instead of just following the RIBnet party line and jingoism that has developed over the last few years (ie Seariders are great, Ribeyes are crap, Porthcawl is the best insurance broker, and anyone who disagrees is an idiot and a troll for posting their opinions).
I used to use Norwich Union for all my car and house insurance until their prices rose year on year until they weren't competitive any more. However, I still get a quote from them at each renewal - it's worth it for the comedy value.
Anyway, back to boat insurance... We shopped around for competetive quotes a few years ago and Porthcawl undercut our current insurer by about £20 with a Norwich Union policy. I had also been in correspondence with another broker about Norwich Union policies, but had deleted the other broker from my shortlist when they told me that Norwich Union wouldn't cover a cross-channel trip under any circumstances, and foreign cruising would be limited to 12miles off the shore of any other European country. Hmmmm. Anyway, Stephen Knipe at Porthcawl assured me that the NU policies he sells would satisfy our requirements, including 12 months in commission and European cover (ie the standard Brest - Elbe clause). Despite his hard work to get our business, and I should add that he was very helpful in posting policy documentation for inspection, we found after very careful reading of the policy wording that the underwriters were not offering us the same level of cover as our Haven Knox-Johnston policy from Curtis Marine.
I have used Curtis Marine since 2003 on the recommendation of another RIBnet member who made a large claim and was very satisfied with the settlement.
You may not of heard of the case that the Insurance Ombudsman settled a couple of yeas ago where a RIB was stolen and the claim was refused. If I remember correctly, it took the claimant over two years and considerable expense to reach a decision from the ombudsman in his favour. I don't know if any confidentiality agreements were signed as part of this settlement.
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14 May 2009, 14:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
Boat name: Qudos
Make: 5.4 Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 115 V4
MMSI: 235068784
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,930
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard B
I answered this thread to get people to think for themselves, instead of just following the RIBnet party line and jingoism that has developed over the last few years (ie Seariders are great, Ribeyes are crap, Porthcawl is the best insurance broker, and anyone who disagrees is an idiot and a troll for posting their opinions).
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Richard you make valid points but to class anyone who agrees that Porthcawl are good, or people who's budgets limit them and in that limit Seariders are about the best as not thinking for themselves is a bad way to put it across.
In fact you just come across as an arrogant cock.
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14 May 2009, 14:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: ramsgate
Boat name: Micki Dee Bee
Make: Ribcraft Seasafari
Length: 9m +
Engine: Twin 250hp Suzuki
MMSI: 235057235
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,622
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Have you tried Euro-Marine Service in Boadstairs?
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14 May 2009, 14:51
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,217
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSP
In fact you just come across as an arrogant cock.
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You also make valid points John.
Nout wrong with Seariders Richard. To buy, moor and insure my boat will have cost less than £1500, it even came with some fuel. Bargain.
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14 May 2009, 14:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,518
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Slightly OT but it does involve Norwich Union and insurance (car)
Twice recently had renewal from NU for car policies, first time £1400 for son,
shopped around and finally re-quoted as new customer with NU direct and £ 795
Wife's renewal came in at £441, tried to re-quote but it wouldn't let me, kept saying already a customer, renewal is, etc.etc. I then transposed her first/last name, put our holiday home address (same postcode)
same DOB identical car and £251 Was advised to speak to 'retentions'.
Not sure if they are all 'at it' but worth a try.
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