Pressure relief valves

[John hulme]

Hi , are there any pressure relief valves that I could easily fit ? I forgot to drop the pressure in the tubes the other day and was concerned if the sun came out it may damage the tubes .

Regards, John

[Tim M]

In the UK this is rarely an issue. Tubes can handle a pretty considerable temperature fluctuation.

[Salty Pete]

I am new to RIBs and have just bought a new one. So, I basically know nothing.
However when looking for a RIB I enquired about pressure relief valves and was told they are more trouble than they are worth.
The tubes on my RIB come with a warranty of 5 years and I can't see them giving a warranty on tubes without a pressure relief valve if they are important.
The only instruction that comes with the boat is that the pressure doesn't drop too low.
There is a possibility (a guess) that a manufacturer may have put pressure relief valves on tubes as a gimmick. Like, our tubes have them and others don't.
The temperature here reaches 38C degrees often and the tubes haven't exploded yet.
Hang on, I just heard a load bang.

[Fender]

Originally Posted by Tim M

In the UK this is rarely an issue. Tubes can handle a pretty considerable temperature fluctuation.

Dark tubes on a hot summers day??
I've seen pressure relief valves blow on a black tubed rib before that's been sat in the sun on the south coast ( hence they run PRV's! )

[pagick]

Originally Posted by Salty Pete

I am new to RIBs and have just bought a new one. So, I basically know nothing.

The tubes on my RIB come with a warranty of 5 years and I can't see them giving a warranty on tubes without a pressure relief valve if they are important.

I would expect a ruptured tube warranty claim would be denied due to overpressure. Even though it can't be proved or denied. If I'm wrong I'd be delighted.

I boat in the arizona desert. High heat makes me burp my tubes a touch mid day just to have no regrets. But probably its the drive home with the afternoon heat change and the mountain pass crossing that is the real concern. I travel home in the morning at 2 psi. When at the top of the pass I cross midday I'm at about 4psi. Max is 4.3psi on my Futura.
My dealer warned me with a story about a guy who filled his tubes to full pressure at sea level and went over a 6000ft pass and blew his main tube.
I often wonder if I'd hear it while sitting in my truck?

[beerbelly]

you boat in the desert

[jeffstevens763@g]

Originally Posted by pagick

I would expect a ruptured tube warranty claim would be denied due to overpressure. Even though it can't be proved or denied. If I'm wrong I'd be delighted.

I boat in the arizona desert. High heat makes me burp my tubes a touch mid day just to have no regrets. But probably its the drive home with the afternoon heat change and the mountain pass crossing that is the real concern. I travel home in the morning at 2 psi. When at the top of the pass I cross midday I'm at about 4psi. Max is 4.3psi on my Futura.
My dealer warned me with a story about a guy who filled his tubes to full pressure at sea level and went over a 6000ft pass and blew his main tube.
I often wonder if I'd hear it while sitting in my truck?

Pagic

In your scenario personally I would fit PRVS here in the uk the temp difference isn't that dramatic still OK to have PRVS but not essential IMO a lot of people seem to worry when they are at max pressure for their boat but that is working pressure and test pressure is different for all companies but you have a fair bit of leaway before the bang personally I just dump air when it's hot and inflate to suit when in use. I'm sure I read somewhere there's a combined inflation and PRV for sale bit of research needed

[Ferryman]

Originally Posted by beerbelly

you boat in the desert

You need to check out Lake Powell and there are plenty of others. We loved it and will definitely be back!

[Lee argyle]

Originally Posted by beerbelly

you boat in the desert

Sealegs?

[pagick]

Originally Posted by beerbelly

you boat in the desert

Yes. And not only is it in the desert but I have to go under the “London Bridge” to head up river.
The same bridge you in the UK sold to the town of Lake Havasu City.

[pagick]

Jeff Stevens. I posted before looking for a combo prv / fill valve but the lead some one segusted wasn’t fruitful for my boat. Perhaps others will have the right threaded valve.

[jeffstevens763@g]

Originally Posted by pagick

Jeff Stevens. I posted before looking for a combo prv / fill valve but the lead some one segusted wasn’t fruitful for my boat. Perhaps others will have the right threaded valve.

drop these a mail if there is a valve to suit they will know might help

https://www.polymarineshop.com/

[chipko]

Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

I'm sure I read somewhere there's a combined inflation and PRV for sale bit of research needed

The combined prv/inflation valve was the Bravo Super Valve


https://www.thewetworks.co.uk/produc...-valve-4-35psi

[jeffstevens763@g]

Originally Posted by chipko

The combined prv/inflation valve was the Bravo Super Valve


https://www.thewetworks.co.uk/produc...-valve-4-35psi

nice one chipko

[pagick]

Originally Posted by Ferryman

You need to check out Lake Powell and there are plenty of others. We loved it and will definitely be back!

Lake Powell is the Holy Grail of boating lakes in the US. I went in 2016

[Orwell boy]

Originally Posted by pagick

Lake Powell is the Holy Grail of boating lakes in the US. I went in 2016

I did lake mouhabe (cottonwood cove ) 2000 ,with some friends and GEC engineers who lived US but were living with the stealth bombers at USAF Lakenheath , "what an expierience " ,could,nt have bought it ! gondola boat to sleep on ,jet boat for daily fun ,unbelievable hospitality from US ,unbelievable place ,think from memory lake mead is the first lake behind the hoover dam and lake mouhabe is the second , please correct me if i am wrong .

[pagick]

Originally Posted by Orwell boy

I did lake mouhabe (cottonwood cove ) 2000 ,with some friends and GEC engineers who lived US but were living with the stealth bombers at USAF Lakenheath , "what an expierience " ,could,nt have bought it ! gondola boat to sleep on ,jet boat for daily fun ,unbelievable hospitality from US ,unbelievable place ,think from memory lake mead is the first lake behind the hoover dam and lake mouhabe is the second , please correct me if i am wrong .

Lake Mojave is where your thinking. Ill post pics in the "Summer Trip" thread I just started. Ill let others post a few before I post Lake Mojave.

[pagick]

Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

drop these a mail if there is a valve to suit they will know might help

https://www.polymarineshop.com/

Thanks jeffstevens,
They recommended C6 @ 5.5psi
I called my zodiac dealer. A new guy replaced the main tech guy I dealt with and he races with Futuras (taking a knife to a gun fight) anyway he over fills his main tubes past 6psi with no worries.
The original tech guy said to expect a rupture at any psi over 5.2psi. And that was pretty close to the 4.3psi recommended pressure.
Perhaps I've just been overly concerned. I'll just lower the pressure some for the drive home.
What's the worst that could happen.

[jeffstevens763@g]

Originally Posted by pagick

Thanks jeffstevens,
They recommended C6 @ 5.5psi
I called my zodiac dealer. A new guy replaced the main tech guy I dealt with and he races with Futuras (taking a knife to a gun fight) anyway he over fills his main tubes past 6psi with no worries.
The original tech guy said to expect a rupture at any psi over 5.2psi. And that was pretty close to the 4.3psi recommended pressure.
Perhaps I've just been overly concerned. I'll just lower the pressure some for the drive home.
What's the worst that could happen.

hi pagick

it's been a big concern by some regarding tube pressure increase in hot weather i did speak to a well know tube manufacturer on here regarding tube test pressure and it's not much more than working pressure and has to hold that pressure for 24 hours + or - temp fluctuation i did do some maths a long time back and from memory an increase of 10 degrees C gives about 6% pressure increase which isn't a lot and dosnt get near test pressure, for me in all my 50 years of inflatable tubes ive always hit the tube with my hand if it rings it's up to pressure if the temp increases dramatically i dump some air and leave the dust caps off which is the secondary seal and allows a bit of air to dump unless your valves are leaking badly and never had any issues, over here in the uk ive found with my last two boats i pump up to pressure once a year and thats it i cover my boats too when not in use to keep them in the shade.