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16 June 2008, 17:59
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product to get water out of tubes
Is there a product to get the water out of the tubes. Something like you use to get water out of gas
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17 June 2008, 12:26
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Cut a hole in the bottom of the tube, water drains out, job done!
On the other hand I have used a pump stirrup type to such out water of my Sib tubes! Worked for me!
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17 June 2008, 12:38
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Before you go stuffing things into the tubes to absorb water don't forget whatever you put in there will swell up.
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17 June 2008, 12:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
Cut a hole in the bottom of the tube, water drains out, job done!
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Been there done that and got the T shirt. Don't go there
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17 June 2008, 12:41
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17 June 2008, 12:52
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Water in Tubes
I think I would be asking "how did it get in there?"
If it is very little, then maybe it is atmospheric condensation as was hinted at, and probably is not worth bothering about, but if it is more than just a little ............
I am told by someone in the trade that for tube draggers a favourite is the tube to cone seam at the stern, where water can be forced in Got to admit that I found it hard to believe, maybe someone on here has experience?
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17 June 2008, 15:58
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How about using a wet/dry vacuum and a grafted on piece of hose (garden hose or smaller)? Remove the valve and have at it? Gotta be easier than opening the tube and resealing.
jky
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17 June 2008, 21:40
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If we're talking about a 3m SIB here - I'd be inclined to inflate it (but not to final operating pressure), and open the valves one at a time. You'll need a couple of people to help you man-handle the boat to get it in the right angle to help force water out.
Work your way around the boat. I assume there won't be more than 3 valves on a SIB that size.
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17 June 2008, 21:53
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Isnt there a dehumidifier available (for hire) with a hose type intake as opposed to a room dehumidifier? Just a thought..
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17 June 2008, 22:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian M
I am told by someone in the trade that for tube draggers a favourite is the tube to cone seam at the stern, where water can be forced in Got to admit that I found it hard to believe, maybe someone on here has experience?
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When I was a lad my father had one of the first Flatacraft force 4's, we had this problem during a holiday to devon.
After throwing it around a bit, as only a Force 4 can we noticed one tube was significantly harder than the other, and that the RIB was listing slightly towards the side with the harder tube.
After dragging it up on the beach in front of the caravans we stayed in, we discovered that the tube was surprisingly full of water, and when poking around the seams a jet of water spurted out of the joint around the bottom where the cone met the main body of the tube.
We had to open the joint up to get the water out and perform a tricky repair.
Luckily all was well, and I've never experianced it since.
Nasher.
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18 June 2008, 00:12
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One possibility would be a vacuum oil sucker - they are great and have many uses including sucking petrol out of tanks etc although they say you must NEVER do that...............
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18 June 2008, 13:30
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just open the valve and connect a wet/dry vacuum cleaner to it with a small bit of hose and lots of tape it will eventually suck it all out
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18 June 2008, 14:38
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Deflate completely the sib, if the valves are the type that with a donw pin turn stays open, simply hang the sib like a hammock and make each valve (at least for the lateral tubes) to stay at the bottom of the u shape formed, water will exit. For the prow valve, the same, but do it manually.
If you are in summer, put your sib outdoor, open all valves, the sun will do the rest for drying/removing the moisture remains. How much time, will depend on the sun.
Happy Boating
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18 June 2008, 15:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locozodiac
If you are in summer, put your sib outdoor, open all valves, the sun will do the rest for drying/removing the moisture remains. How much time, will depend on the sun.
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Problem with that method is that (assuming sea water ingress) the salt will be left behind. Probably won't cause a problem, but salt crystals are not the best thing to have around airtight material.
jky
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18 June 2008, 17:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian M
I am told by someone in the trade that for tube draggers a favourite is the tube to cone seam at the stern, where water can be forced in Got to admit that I found it hard to believe, maybe someone on here has experience?
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I can vouch for the fact that it does just that... a relatively tiny hole in one side of mine let about 10 gallons of water in over a very short space of time. Not sure about the physics of how but it does!
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18 June 2008, 19:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jyasaki
Problem with that method is that (assuming sea water ingress) the salt will be left behind. Probably won't cause a problem, but salt crystals are not the best thing to have around airtight material.
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In that case flood interior tube/s with fresh water to rinse salt out and continue with the procedure...
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19 June 2008, 06:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locozodiac
In that case flood interior tube/s with fresh water to rinse salt out and continue with the procedure...
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Have you ever heard of a water purifying still?
For a still, you take impure water (in this scenario sea water, "contaminated" with salt) and evaporate it, and collect the vapor. The result is reasonably pure fresh water. The salt (again, this scenario) is left behind. Flooding the tubes with fresh water will not remove the salt; it will simply make the evaporation/drying process take longer due to the evaporation of greater amounts of pure water. The salt will still be in the tubes.
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19 June 2008, 08:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jyasaki
Have you ever heard of a water purifying still?
For a still, you take impure water (in this scenario sea water, "contaminated" with salt) and evaporate it, and collect the vapor. The result is reasonably pure fresh water. The salt (again, this scenario) is left behind. Flooding the tubes with fresh water will not remove the salt; it will simply make the evaporation/drying process take longer due to the evaporation of greater amounts of pure water. The salt will still be in the tubes.
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Read it again " In that case flood interior tube/s with fresh water to rinse salt out and continue with the procedure..." & you can see he said to rinse the salt water OUT so it will not be in the tube when it drys out so no salt to be left behind as it has been rinsed out!
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19 June 2008, 15:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
Read it again " In that case flood interior tube/s with fresh water to rinse salt out and continue with the procedure..." & you can see he said to rinse the salt water OUT so it will not be in the tube when it drys out so no salt to be left behind as it has been rinsed out!
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Nick; the original post was how to get the water out in the first place. If you can't do that, you can't flush the salt out. If you can, then the followup question was irrelevant in the first place.
jky
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19 June 2008, 16:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jyasaki
Nick; the original post was how to get the water out in the first place. If you can't do that, you can't flush the salt out. If you can, then the followup question was irrelevant in the first place.
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OK I sand corrected,this thread dose seam to be going around the houses!
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