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12 March 2009, 23:26
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
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12 March 2009, 23:32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle Staffs
Boat name: blue it
Make: ribcraft 7.5
Length: 7m +
Engine: suzuki df225
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 507
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13 March 2009, 09:51
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Trade member
Country: UK - England
Town: Yeovil, Somerset
Boat name: Ribcraft1
Make: Ribcraft
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 75
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler
What do you over laminate the transom top with? chopped strand by the look of it.
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Next time your passing Yeovil, Pop in and I'll show you a boat in build.
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13 March 2009, 09:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Over here
Boat name: S.S. Nobstick
Make: Three Wise Monkeys
Length: 3m +
Engine: 44lbs of thrust....
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jace
Next time your passing Yeovil, Pop in and I'll show you a boat in build.
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...yeah, you might teach Tubbs something about boat building.
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16 March 2009, 21:09
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Member
Country: Germany
Make: RIBCRAFT 5.85
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150AETX Yamaha
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 86
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Hi there,
thinking about structural problems on a RIBCRAFT:
The only thing that got absolutly nothing was the Ribcaft and the TRANSOM!
Any questions about structural problems?
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16 March 2009, 21:35
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trolli
Hi there,
thinking about structural problems on a RIBCRAFT:
The only thing that got absolutly nothing was the Ribcaft and the TRANSOM!
Any questions about structural problems?
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Yes ..
First ..whilst these pics have been posted before , I wouldnt fancy my chances supposing the transom was made of blooming 'Kryptonite' when 40 tonne hits it the wrong way !!
Second .. that transom looks like it has double knees on it, no wonder its stronger than the op's transom, particularly as its also fitted with a massive spreader plate .. hmm wonder what that suggests ?
Third .. there are no close up photos of the transom to verify what you say .. although I don't doubt it, if the trucks radiator absorbed a sharp outboard leg, and the trailer bounced favourably, whilst its draw bar collapsed absorbing energy too.
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16 March 2009, 21:37
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#47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon. uk
Boat name: bananashark
Make: me
Length: 7m +
Engine: opti 225
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 325
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So is that massive metal plate on the inside of the transom standard then?
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16 March 2009, 21:46
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,596
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Since there's fibreglass and plywood embedded in the front of the lorry. If it's not from the Ribcraft then the actual main lorry impact was with something else so your photos are more than slightly misleading. Silly boy.
It could of course be the lorry which is made from plywood and then I'd be wrong.
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16 March 2009, 21:59
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#49
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwalker
Since there's fibreglass and plywood embedded in the front of the lorry. If it's not from the Ribcraft then the actual main lorry impact was with something else so your photos are more than slightly misleading. Silly boy.
It could of course be the lorry which is made from plywood and then I'd be wrong.
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Back end of the caravan ? on its way to the rib
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16 March 2009, 22:04
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#50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W/Switzerland
Boat name: HotShot
Make: shakey
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Tohatsu TLDI
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bedajim
Back end of the caravan ? on its way to the rib
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I would say thats about right, the lorry clearly clipped the caravan and then hit the outboard leg on the side twisting it off the transom and buckling the trailer draw bar. A direct straight rear shunt would have certainly smashed the transom before the draw bar buckled, that steel would not buckle easily under direct compression!
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16 March 2009, 22:05
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#51
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Member
Country: Germany
Make: RIBCRAFT 5.85
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150AETX Yamaha
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 86
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwalker
Since there's fibreglass and plywood embedded in the front of the lorry. If it's not from the Ribcraft then the actual main lorry impact was with something else so your photos are more than slightly misleading. Silly boy.
It could of course be the lorry which is made from plywood and then I'd be wrong.
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The main impact on the boat! But what has the "main impact" to do with "misleading"?
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16 March 2009, 22:17
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#52
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Member
Country: Germany
Make: RIBCRAFT 5.85
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150AETX Yamaha
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 86
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bedajim
Back end of the caravan ? on its way to the rib
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So you guys got eagle eyes
Not one...two caravans...two cars...and exactly the prop of the engine
And the plate was made of 4mm Alu.
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17 March 2009, 00:38
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#53
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Well it proves caravans are a load of crap and only RIBs should be allowed on the roads!!!
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17 March 2009, 08:27
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Raven
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 suzuki
MMSI: 235040525
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kitten
So is that massive metal plate on the inside of the transom standard then?
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I think there are enough Ribcrafts like this out there with no issues for this to be unusual (original post)...I have experience of a similar symptom, on a 2" section of the over capping; it was caused by the design of the transon tappering to the top. A running 6 hp aux gradually worked it way up (getting looser and looser) until the twisting cracked the top capping..I'm not suggesting that's what's happened here, just that the cappings resilience to torque type pressure is limited.I think I would be looking at it as Muz has.
On the crash boat, I definitely find that 4 mm alum plate( is it both sides ) and it's reason for being interesting…would our continental friend eloborate about it?
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17 March 2009, 08:40
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#55
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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On a plus note , and slightly off topic, I am well impressed with these 'snap in' demountable towing brackets, as fitted to this Audi here, and as used by BMW (same design). They are about a £1500 dealer fit, but, you can lift it out of the stow section in your boot & fit it in about 3 seconds, and bingo, its good for 3 tonne. Its a surprisingly simple mechanism, and at first I was dubious about their strength but having used them for 10 years now, I think they're great Of course the piccy doesnt show if there is any damage closely,(or to the car chassis) but it looks intact.
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17 March 2009, 14:32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,518
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Just had my crack looked at
Not a structural problem suggested sikaflex to remedy it. ( wasn't as bad as the crack in the pics and didn't go under engine bracket or the hypalon )
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17 March 2009, 14:35
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kernow
Just had my crack looked at
Not a structural problem suggested sikaflex to remedy it.
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17 March 2009, 14:37
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#58
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
On a plus note , and slightly off topic, I am well impressed with these 'snap in' demountable towing brackets, as fitted to this Audi here, and as used by BMW (same design). They are about a £1500 dealer fit, but, you can lift it out of the stow section in your boot & fit it in about 3 seconds, and bingo, its good for 3 tonne. Its a surprisingly simple mechanism, and at first I was dubious about their strength but having used them for 10 years now, I think they're great Of course the piccy doesnt show if there is any damage closely,(or to the car chassis) but it looks intact.
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I read about someone using one for towing trailers offroad and it just wasn't up to sideways forces. Great on road but not as strong as a Dixon Bate or similar.
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17 March 2009, 20:29
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#59
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Raven
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 suzuki
MMSI: 235040525
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
They are about a £1500 dealer fit, but, you can lift it out of the stow section in your boot & fit it in about 3 seconds, and bingo, its good for 3 tonne.
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Must be retrofit at that price if added as a option on a new build (BMW),it's £600.very clever design,however the last one I had was on for three years solid; as I lost the wee keys about ten minutes after picking the car up.
Apparently the car detects impending doom via the hitch if the trailer starts to snake and sorts it out for you..
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17 March 2009, 22:27
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#60
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IBWET
Must be retrofit at that price if added as a option on a new build (BMW),it's £600.very clever design,however the last one I had was on for three years solid; as I lost the wee keys about ten minutes after picking the car up.
Apparently the car detects impending doom via the hitch if the trailer starts to snake and sorts it out for you..
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Ah! you'll be right on that.. price wise.. .. I refuse to buy cars new.. and always haggle these things in on the deal for a nearly new motor
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Originally Posted by IBWET
Apparently the car detects impending doom via the hitch if the trailer starts to snake and sorts it out for you..
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Yes .. I believe that when the electrics see a trailer connected, the telemetry adjusts damping and braking to compensate for wayward back end movement although I must confess how each manufacturer defines this I am not sure.. Isn't there some kind of accelerometer in the vehicle which the airbags system uses to determine time of deployment etc ? .. I think its related to this system somehow
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