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17 April 2011, 13:55
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Country: Ireland
Town: Donegal
Boat name: Grey Seal
Make: Narwhal
Length: 4m +
Engine: 254HP
Join Date: May 2008
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Ran Over channel marker. 3M rip. Help!
Yep thats 3 meters.
Last night I had to do a rescue of another rib that got 'sandbared'. Dark, fast retreating tide , 5 blokes plus me, yu get the idea.
I have 4m narwarl, 2 y/o.
On return journey(about 1KM) due to spot light being blocked, weight in boat, etc etc.. I ran over one of those broken triangler markers laying on its side, couple of inches below water.
It did a 'titanic' on the tube, front to back below the waterline.
BTW. I was quite impressed as we had no problem going last 500m with 6 blokes and one tube in fadst ebbing water.(Thier ribs say there 'unsinkable')
Anyway
I'm pretty sure its uPVC that narwhal use.
Simple question can a 3m repair be done.? (Thier Org is paying)
I use the rib at least 2 days a week year round, so I'll have to trust it.
Appreciate any info.
Gary
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17 April 2011, 17:48
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
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Don't see why not. It's no different from a seam joint of which you'll have quite a few already running the length of the boat from when it was made.
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17 April 2011, 17:55
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,551
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I'd be talking to insurers looking for a full retube , with your excess paid by those offering to pay for the repair.
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17 April 2011, 18:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,217
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A 3m tear will be going between a couple if chambers too, it'll be repairable but would you buy a RIB that had a 3m repair?
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17 April 2011, 18:31
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Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,653
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If you *could* repair it, would you ever trust the repair? Seems to me that a failure of the patch could be fairly catastrophic.
But, I've seen some fairly large repairs (though on hypalon), and they usually entail stitching the rip together prior to gluing a rather generous patch on. It would probably be better to patch inside and out, but I don't see how that would be possible without opening the tube up to work on the rip (which I don't think you can do with PVC.) The ensuing repair, while airtight, is really unsightly (which is the British understatement for "horrendously ugly".)
I'd be pushing for a retube as well.
I take it the rescue was successul?
Luck wiith it
jky
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17 April 2011, 18:53
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jyasaki
(which is the British understatement for "horrendously ugly".)
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You British then, JKY?
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17 April 2011, 19:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dartmouth
Boat name: TIDEL III
Make: AVON SEARIDER
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 823
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we would attempt to repair it but would not give any warrenty i would advise a retube in hypalon
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17 April 2011, 20:09
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,726
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
A 3m tear will be going between a couple if chambers too, it'll be repairable but would you buy a RIB that had a 3m repair?
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Nope.......
Possible, maybe; desirable, no.
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17 April 2011, 20:16
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Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Retube in Hypalon as said before. Excess and loss of NCB being picked up by the people offering costs
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17 April 2011, 20:30
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Retube her Gary. No-one will give you decent money for a RIB with a repair of that magnitude. We're almost neighbours BTW, I'm just through the Gap.
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17 April 2011, 21:03
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Donegal
Boat name: Grey Seal
Make: Narwhal
Length: 4m +
Engine: 254HP
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 14
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mmm. Not to worried about re-sell as if i have the moeny to buy what I want next, the 1000 for a sell wont make a dent!
Or looks, as its below the waterline and people 'round these parts still look at an 'inflatable' no matter what size and say "jeses, I wouldn't go out in blow up ting like dat" and then step, carefully, into thier' man killer' real boats.
I've no insurance so thats out.
I've looked at these in sligo. Seem to able to make something outa nothing.
http://www.inlandboats.ie/index.php?...d=21&Itemid=42
Anyway know more tomorrow.
O and yes. Everybody back safe.
Was a good laugh up to that point as we all sang 'Keep Green right, keep red left' etc to other driver.
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18 April 2011, 09:40
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cambs
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 225 Opti
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 356
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No insurance!! That's a bit rich for my blood.
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18 April 2011, 13:16
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: macclessfield
Boat name: Reach Out
Make: Quicksilver
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30hp Tohatsu EFI
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 301
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No requirement for insurance... it's optional.
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18 April 2011, 13:21
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Lymington Hampshire
Boat name: Hot Lemon
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yanmar diesel
MMSI: 235
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 780
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It's optional till you run over and kill or maim someone ! Then it may seem to be a good idea! Amazing how a personal injury claim can mount up .
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04 May 2011, 14:59
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Donegal
Boat name: Grey Seal
Make: Narwhal
Length: 4m +
Engine: 254HP
Join Date: May 2008
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JFI
Motor Marine, Burtonport did a great job with the manufacturers materials. €800
Gary
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04 May 2011, 15:00
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Good to hear you're sorted. Any chance of an "after" pic Gary?
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