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16 October 2012, 23:13
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Realistic?
SO.... the boiler and I have just been to do our Lvl2 PB course at Cumbrae, and I have my intermediate booked for March. Now I'm trying to figure out if I can afford a RIB!
Can I realistically pick up a reasonably servicable 4 - 5m RIB for less than or equal to 5grand? It doesn't need to be specially luxurious: a double jockey would do us fine, and it doesn't need to be specially powerful: the 5m XS's they had at Cumbrae seemed to go fine with a 60hp four stroke, and I need to be able to fuel the thing or it's just a garden ornament!
I seem to remember when I first started lurking this board about 3 months ago that there was lots about on Boats and Outboards etc but maybe they were all scams?
As far as what we'd be using it for: I'd like to be able to do it all really (who doesn't?) We need to trailer it to Lough Derg in Ireland for 2 weeks every summer. I'd like to be able to stick it on the Lake District Lakes and potter about at the speed limit without the think oiling up. And a bit of modest coastal cruising in North Wales.
If I'm whistling Dixie then I may have to set my sights a little lower and go for a tiller-control SIB or perhaps a tiller control small RIB?
Any observations and/or advice is more than welcome.
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16 October 2012, 23:24
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Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
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Assuming you are talking 2nd hand its absolutely possible.
For that budget you could get a very tidy searider 4m. Probably even the much sought after 4.7m.
If you look in the for sale forums you should be able to find a few examples of 4-5m ribs advertised at <£6k. At the top end of your spec there may be a compromise, but you should still find something pretty much ready to use.
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16 October 2012, 23:51
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Originally Posted by Clamchowder
Can I realistically pick up a reasonably servicable 4 - 5m RIB for less than or equal to 5grand? .
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nothing to do with me and i'm not recomending it but a quick seach turned up this sort of thing
RING SPORTS RIB 5.8 HONDA 4 STROKE 90 HP ENGINE | eBay
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16 October 2012, 23:59
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Your eBay skills are way better than mine! Might not be able to tow that with my puny Golf mind.
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17 October 2012, 07:59
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19 October 2012, 00:45
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Thing is tho... how many boats in my price range are genuine? Of the two I have responded to so far (two days since deciding I seriously want a boat) both have turned out to be *very* crude attempts to get me to send them money without having seen the boat.
I know it's early days, but it make you suspicious of anyone selling anything.
I mean FFS:
"Hi Dan I have attached you photos and my driving license I am serious seller and I don't want to waste time.
I work only through via eBay !! I have requested personal support and I was approved to use Buyer Protection Program. Here is how the process works through the Buyer Protection Program:"
The driving license feature some dude who looks like an Eastern European catalog model. How dumb would you need to be?
hey ho. maybe i should just buy golf clubs?
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19 October 2012, 01:22
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Clam, It may not be to your taste but there is a humber on here (
http://www.rib.net/forum/f21/5-3-hum...que-50627.html) thats advertised a £6k - but I suspect might go for very close to your budget [ http://www.rib.net/forum/f8/selling-...ue-50885.html].
Even if its not to your taste it will give you a benchmark. I can't vouch for the vendor but I do believe it is a genuine sale .
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19 October 2012, 01:29
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
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£7k gets you a tasty 6m Humber Destroyer and Honda 90hp.
HUMBER DESTROYER - FAFB
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19 October 2012, 02:19
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Member
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Town: Acharacle
Boat name: Iolar
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Nice looking boats both of them. Not sure how I feel about 6k for a 20 year old motor though... (NB I am a nubcake and know nothing, 20 yrs may be nowt on an outboard)
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19 October 2012, 08:27
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How about this one then
Steve (DryRun on here) is genuine for sure and a reputable broker. Honest, helpful and well placed to offer a great deal.
Nice boat for the money, cheap way to find out if Ribs are for you will always hold that value if well looked after.
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007
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19 October 2012, 08:51
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I guess that means you've moved the dr520 you has on here a while back.
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19 October 2012, 09:11
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We sold it for £4,100 - being collected next week
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19 October 2012, 09:23
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Damn. Looked nice.
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19 October 2012, 11:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clamchowder
Thing is tho... how many boats in my price range are genuine? Of the two I have responded to so far (two days since deciding I seriously want a boat) both have turned out to be *very* crude attempts to get me to send them money without having seen the boat?
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There are a lot of scams out there!
First thing to do is look through the sellers feedback and see what he's been buying and selling.
If it's a load of iPhone cases, that’s usually not a good sign!
If there is other boaty stuff or even bits that you might be able to see on the boat it's self-that’s always a good sign.
Open a conversation with the seller, but don’t give anything away. Start simple with "can I come and look at the boat" never offer to send any ID or money! Then if it sounds ok then go see the boat. Remember the will always be another boat so don’t get carried away.
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19 October 2012, 12:41
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Absolutely!
I wasn't anywhere near beingtaken in. It's just frustrating.
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19 October 2012, 16:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clamchowder
Nice looking boats both of them. Not sure how I feel about 6k for a 20 year old motor though... (NB I am a nubcake and know nothing, 20 yrs may be nowt on an outboard)
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Certainly if you want <5k and fairly new motor you are going to be restricting yourself quite a bit. Some people would be happy with a 20 yr old motor (which is probably half the value of that package) assuming its been well maintained. All boats are compromises, so something else will need to give.
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19 October 2012, 16:37
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Sorry, i didn't mean to be dismissive. It's a very nice looking boat which has obviously had a lot of time spent on it.
I know am after the moon on a stick, and that compromise will be necessary.
So many of these boats are on the south coast that I may need to go down there for a weekend in the spring to see things in the 'flesh'. In any case it seems the real stumbling block maybe getting a tow hitch put on the car, but that's for another thread....
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19 October 2012, 16:49
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Boat name: Moneypenny
Make: Avon SR 5.4
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Engine: Yam 90
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Originally Posted by Clamchowder
Nice looking boats both of them. Not sure how I feel about 6k for a 20 year old motor though... (NB I am a nubcake and know nothing, 20 yrs may be nowt on an outboard)
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Hi Clamchowder
I am the owner of the humber attaque, no pressure at all but I can vouch for the engine being very well looked after. I bought this rib just under 1 year ago from Johnscubanut on the forum.
His dive club had owned the whole outfit from brannd new and they have now purchased a ribcraft 585. The rib had been stored under a barn for all its life,I'm sure if you pm him he will reassure you on the service history.
I will be perfectly honest, I bought it for £3200 and have spent close to 3k on it.
It is on ebay this week and I currently have 38 watchers, I would like to see it go to someone on the forum as I know it will make a great 1st boat for someone with a limited budget.
If you would like to chat I have sent a PM with my phone number.
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19 October 2012, 18:03
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Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
Boat name: Tamanco
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Good luck with the search. I've found it a complete lottery just buying an engine & then the one I did buy and was happy with has just been destroyed by a dealer during a routine service & they charged me almost £500 for the pleasure of bringing it home in several boxes !!!!
If you can get a reccomendation off or through someone on this site I would say it's your best option & don't part with a penny until you collect !!
I bought one through ebay/apollo duck from a clown called dan cooper/outboards cambridge among some of his alias's & it took me 6months to get my money back!
Again good luk & I hope you get something you can enjoy.
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19 October 2012, 18:14
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Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: Impulse
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140
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If you can get a reccomendation off or through someone on this site I would say it's your best option & don't part with a penny until you collect !!
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I bought my current boat from Woody in September 2011 who is selling the Humber, kept in touch ever since, good guy and meticulously looks after his boats
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