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31 August 2010, 17:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hambledon
Boat name: Camel Trophy
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: outboard petro 150Hp
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Repair work.
Hi there folks.
This is my first thread so go easy. I am looking at buying a CAMEL TROPHY rib. I've been in awe of these for years and I've forever wanted one. Ones come on the market and I went to see it. As you can see from the pictures, shes in need of some work to the console. many of the dials dont work, speedo, rev counter, etc... now, this i blame on a bad previous owner. literally has no idea of boat maintenance, and as much as i want it, its too much for the asking price, going on the fact its in such disrepair. so, i want to understand something. How easy is it to get these things to work again? electrics, etc... How easy is it in general to get this boat back to its former glory. is there any literature or websites you can recommend to use as a base of knowledge?
Secondly is it worth it?
Thirdly if it is, how much would you recon its worth.....?
Cheers for any advice from all you knowledgeable people out there.
James
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31 August 2010, 17:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,299
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easy, it would be better if you could list everything that needs doing and enclose photos etc,
If you are new to ribs/boats etc im sure there is someone on here that lives close to you that could view it and give their opinion on it.
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31 August 2010, 17:44
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Hants
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300hp plus
Join Date: Sep 2007
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I believe Biffer on this forum used to be involved with Ribtec when these boats were put out, he is busy on some projects presently (and beaten up on the Cowes races!)as I have some work for him but has his business close to The Hamble so may be the best person to ask.
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31 August 2010, 17:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Leeds
Boat name: Bam Bam
Make: Zodiac YL-380-DL
Length: 3m +
Engine: Outboard, petrol, 40
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 271
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Originally Posted by silcockj
is there any literature or websites you can recommend to use as a base of knowledge?
Secondly is it worth it?
Thirdly if it is, how much would you recon its worth.....?
Cheers for any advice from all you knowledgeable people out there.
James
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Welcome to RIBnet James.
1. You have just posted on the most informative website in the world for the kind of advice you require.
2. You need to post more pictures of the boat and problem areas in order to determine if its a reasonable project to undertake or if you need to leave it alone.
3. Whats it worth? - see 2.
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31 August 2010, 18:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hambledon
Boat name: Camel Trophy
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: outboard petro 150Hp
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 5
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Originally Posted by C2 RIBS
I believe Biffer on this forum used to be involved with Ribtec when these boats were put out
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Fantastic. I will get in touch with him!
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Originally Posted by Bam Bam
Welcome to RIBnet James.
1. You have just posted on the most informative website in the world for the kind of advice you require.
2. You need to post more pictures of the boat and problem areas in order to determine if its a reasonable project to undertake or if you need to leave it alone.
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Ok, Cheers for the help guys. I will post back shortly with some more info.
Seems like everyone here is out to help. Think i like the new ribbing world i am entering! As a background, not new to boats, been a yachty and a dinghy racer for years (sorry guys....) but have always enjoyed a thrill on a boat! so looking for one to fuel the thrill.
Cheers again!
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31 August 2010, 18:48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,804
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Originally Posted by silcockj
Think i like the new ribbing world i am entering! As a background, not new to boats, been a yachty and a dinghy racer for years (sorry guys....)
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Sorry about that.... maybe you should keep that to yourself.
Anyway, how technically minded are you? This can have alot to do with any costs involved if you are competeent to undertake the work your self...
Welcome, by the way.
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31 August 2010, 20:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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evening, i know your boat well, in fact i know them all well, i should think it's wiring loom that's playing up on yours, do the fuel gauges still work?
email me on info@customrib.com, i'll try to do as much as i can to put you right, biff
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31 August 2010, 20:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,804
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Not sure if he's actually bought it yet Biff?
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31 August 2010, 20:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dartmouth
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,220
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A friend of mine ran one of these as a Thrill ride rib from a waterside hotel down here in Dartmouth. All original spec. with the 130 Honda. Thrill should have been in brackets really, very uninspiring especially with the fuels tanks full and 4+ people on board. Personally i love that Ribtec hull and it goes well with the right HP on it but his started to break bits off the A frame eventually so it was removed.
Is this the one that was advertised on B+O a while ago?
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31 August 2010, 22:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hambledon
Boat name: Camel Trophy
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: outboard petro 150Hp
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 5
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Originally Posted by biffer
i should think it's wiring loom that's playing up on yours, do the fuel gauges still work?
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from what i seem to remember, i am sure he said they didnt....
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Originally Posted by Jizm
Anyway, how technically minded are you?
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Quite, i've done a lot of stuff and built custom made computers.... (GEEK... )
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Originally Posted by Jizm
Not sure if he's actually bought it yet Biff?
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Nope... deciding if its actually worth it.
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Originally Posted by ribraff
...very uninspiring especially with the fuels tanks full and 4+ people on board.... it goes well with the right HP on it....Is this the one that was advertised on B+O a while ago?
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Well, they've apparently disconnected the two large 200lt tanks so no worries overloading it. Its been upgraded to a 150hp Evinrude 2 stroke. not sure whether its the same one, whats B+O?
Cheers for the chat guys.
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31 August 2010, 22:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silcockj
Well, they've apparently disconnected the two large 200lt tanks so no worries overloading it. Its been upgraded to a 150hp Evinrude 2 stroke. .
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ETEC or Ficht?
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31 August 2010, 22:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,804
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Originally Posted by silcockj
Quite, i've done a lot of stuff and built custom made computers.... (GEEK... )
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Doesn't that stuff just plug in?
By technical, I mean in terms of wiring, GRP, rigging etc?
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31 August 2010, 23:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hambledon
Boat name: Camel Trophy
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: outboard petro 150Hp
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizm
ETEC or Ficht?
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not sure. shows my inexperience with RIBs. there's a video on youTube of it, shows engine.
[YOUTUBE] Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizm
Doesn't that stuff just plug in?
By technical, I mean in terms of wiring, GRP, rigging etc?
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OI! not a huge amount i suppose, but give me a manual or the know how, and i'll follow it to the line. I can think logially. Done repairs to boats before. worked a little with grp, carbon fiber, fiberglass....
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31 August 2010, 23:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hambledon
Boat name: Camel Trophy
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: outboard petro 150Hp
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 5
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fail. well here is the link to the video. tis not showing on mine
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31 August 2010, 23:50
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,632
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizm
ETEC or Ficht?
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His video shows Ficht. Although it is the "Ram" version which I think means it is "fixed ficht" rather the "f*cked" ?
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Originally Posted by silcokj
I am looking at buying a CAMEL TROPHY rib. I've been in awe of these for years and I've forever wanted one.
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why? IMHO you are paying a premium simply because it is a camel trophy rib. The hull is fine, in fact the ribtec hull is well thought of - but I've heard a lot of negative comments about the longevity of the fittings (note the "roof rack" is gone on this one). They were built for the race - not to last a lifetime. You can probably spend less / get a better boat.
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many of the dials dont work, speedo, rev counter, etc... now, this i blame on a bad previous owner. literally has no idea of boat maintenance, and as much as i want it, its too much for the asking price, going on the fact its in such disrepair. so, i want to understand something. How easy is it to get these things to work again? electrics, etc...
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depends! As biffer says it could be dodgy loom so its not that difficult to rewire it (in fact it could be a single dodgy earth or +12 V killing everything?) - but I've seen a couple of old neglected ribs where water has got into the dials and if they do need replacing I'd budget £50 per dial (more if they are fancy multifunction things).
I note there is some sort of large fancy plotter on the console, not sure how smart the engine is - but it might just be new enough ? to be able to link to the plotter and display RPM etc?
I'm guessing its this one: B&O at £12,500 I guess the question I'd be asking is why is it any better than this B&O with Honda at £10.995 but probably working electrics. or this one B&O still with "Roof rack" - in need of a general tidy up at £11,995 or for example this Ribtec at over £3000 less, with a better reputation engine,
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