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30 December 2010, 22:19
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Repower a Humber Destroyer
I have a humber destroyer 5.8 with an old 150 mariner 2 stroke that's EOL - a friend of mine has a honda 90 4 stroke and thinking of trying it.
I know, I cannot expect the same power, but should a 90 4 stroke be enough to play around?
What about fuel consumption comparing HP to weight?
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30 December 2010, 22:28
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
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Imagine taking the engine out of an aging Lamborghini and replacing it with one from a Toyota Yaris. It'll move.
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30 December 2010, 22:39
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Dave Mallet aka wavlength has a 6m Destroyer with a 90hp four stroke, goes very well considering hp / kg , I would expect about 35 knots.
90hp four stroke will use about 1litre per nm
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30 December 2010, 22:50
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Country: UK - England
Town: North West
Boat name: Rubber Duck
Make: Humber
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Engine: 90 Opti
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Curent destroyer (2009 model) with a 90 opti makes 38kts and averages about 0.8l/nm. Ok its a 2 stroke so id expect Jono's estimate to be pretty close to reality.
Hope it helps you.
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31 December 2010, 08:11
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Originally Posted by Jono Garton
Dave Mallet aka wavlength has a 6m Destroyer with a 90hp four stroke,
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Funny that, 'coz Andy Scholes aka 'Sticky' has a 90 Honda on a 5.5 Gemini and that's as flat as a fart.
Describing 35knts tops for a 6m boat as 'goes very well', sounds like Jono is trying to flog it.
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31 December 2010, 08:18
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Town: Gloucestershire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarflyRIB
I have a humber destroyer 5.8 with an old 150 mariner 2 stroke that's EOL - a friend of mine has a honda 90 4 stroke and thinking of trying it.
I know, I cannot expect the same power, but should a 90 4 stroke be enough to play around?
What about fuel consumption comparing HP to weight?
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Wow thats quite a jump and will be equivalent to about half as much power on the rib.
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31 December 2010, 08:53
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Engine: Etec 150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Wow thats quite a jump and will be equivalent to about half as much power on the rib.
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Half the fuel consumption as well though
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31 December 2010, 09:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster
Half the fuel consumption as well though
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Probably not. The 90 would be getting it's @rse whipped all day to keep it near it's 35knts.
Imagine reselling it. Any prospective buyer is gonna think that the main engine has been pinched.
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31 December 2010, 11:26
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarflyRIB
I have a humber destroyer 5.8 with an old 150 mariner 2 stroke that's EOL - a friend of mine has a honda 90 4 stroke and thinking of trying it.
I know, I cannot expect the same power, but should a 90 4 stroke be enough to play around?
What about fuel consumption comparing HP to weight?
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There's a Honda 135hp here, but it's an extra-long-shaft? Seems expensive for the hours on it. http://www.findafishingboat.com/hond...-shaft/DS29943
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01 January 2011, 16:43
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I have a suzi 90 on a 5.8m, admittedly its a bit lardy with a dual console, aux, twin batteries and about 100l of fuel but I can cruise 2 up at around 24 knots and get 30 flat out.
Even without all the extra stuff I don't think 38 knots is realistic with a 4 stroker
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01 January 2011, 19:18
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Town: Romney Marsh ,Kent
Make: Osprey 5.85
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Engine: 90hp Tohatsu
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I am getting about 30-34 knots on mine (just hitting about 4500 rpm) - 9o hp tohatso on 5.85m. Mike
BTW Happy New Year
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01 January 2011, 19:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bingomike
I am getting about 30-34 knots on mine (just hitting about 4500 rpm) - 9o hp tohatso on 5.85m. Mike
BTW Happy New Year
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Whats WOT?
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01 January 2011, 19:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
Whats WOT?
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WOT = Wide Open Throttle (its an acronym mate)
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01 January 2011, 20:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
Whats WOT?
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You know, WOT, one of the two positions on a RNLI throttle:
1. NOT
2. WOT
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01 January 2011, 21:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
You know, WOT, one of the two positions on a RNLI throttle:
1. NOT
2. WOT
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They wouldn't understand, they don't let Chewy or Dan at the Helm
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01 January 2011, 21:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono Garton
They wouldn't understand, they don't let Chewy or Dan at the Helm
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I have for you a Spoon, so you can Stir It some more...
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01 January 2011, 21:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Worth
WOT = Wide Open Throttle (its an acronym mate)
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I know that soft arse, I was asking him as in "whats the rpm at WOT" as he mentioned 4500rpm.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono Garton
They wouldn't understand, they don't let Chewy or Dan at the Helm
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Times have changed since you were last here....
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01 January 2011, 21:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
Whats WOT?
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Hi Chewy,
That is WOT - the prop setup is keeping revs down to just over 4500, book says WOT should max out at 5500. Going to have a play with new props etc in feb. Just finished running in so haven't bothered so far..
Mike
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01 January 2011, 21:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bingomike
Hi Chewy,
That is WOT - the prop setup is keeping revs down to just over 4500, book says WOT should max out at 5500. Going to have a play with new props etc in feb. Just finished running in so haven't bothered so far..
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Glad someone knew what I was on about, should get a few more knots with it revving to 5500rpm.
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02 January 2011, 08:47
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Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
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