Retube- IBS boat supplies

[rik_elliott]

Hi

After receiving an eye watering quote of about 6k from both henshaws and ribshop for a retube on a 4.7 tornado, I found that IBS boat supplies can supply tubes for a much more reasonable rate. Yes, they supply PVC rather than hypalon and I am aware of the pros and cons of the two materials - the PVC tubes will be fine for my use and better than the leaky PU tubes I currently have.

The issue is IBS don't appear to include fitting of the tubes. I am the sort to overestimate my DIY abilities so while I wouldnt mind having a crack at this, I should probably pay someone who wont ruin the tubes. Does anyone know what sort of cost I would be looking at to get premade tubes fitted - and have any ideas as to local fitters in the southampton area? If the cost is in the thousands then this line of thinking is dead in the water, but I cant imagine it would be that much?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

[Orwell boy]

Originally Posted by rik_elliott

Hi

After receiving an eye watering quote of about 6k from both henshaws and ribshop for a retube on a 4.7 tornado, I found that IBS boat supplies can supply tubes for a much more reasonable rate. Yes, they supply PVC rather than hypalon and I am aware of the pros and cons of the two materials - the PVC tubes will be fine for my use and better than the leaky PU tubes I currently have.

The issue is IBS don't appear to include fitting of the tubes. I am the sort to overestimate my DIY abilities so while I wouldnt mind having a crack at this, I should probably pay someone who wont ruin the tubes. Does anyone know what sort of cost I would be looking at to get premade tubes fitted - and have any ideas as to local fitters in the southampton area? If the cost is in the thousands then this line of thinking is dead in the water, but I cant imagine it would be that much?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

Your setting out on interesting path ,being a tight wad myself,one i have trodden to conclusion !..these are my thoughts
First must tell i have seen a boat fitted with new pvc tubes in east anglia and chatted a couple of years ago and i have a memory that i may have been told there is a tube fitters in Basildon area that fitted the ibs tubes ,i should add the job looked nice and i think the boat was going to be used and stored at wolverstone marina ,but i hav,nt seen it since
Secondly do you reckon you will get fitted for under 1k ? i think you may struggle ?
Rib retubes in hull is i believe partly owned by james mallet (a good guy )from memory ,and he or his father may well have built your boat ? he quoting 4295 on his site for your retube in hypalon fitted , so surely must be a bit of wiggle room ,which wouldnt leave you far apart ? ...these guys know tornados and also could poss post you a set of tubes at a good price ??
I also have in my phone a number for a mobile tube fitter ,ex henshaws i believe .
Finally i must tell you i have heard alot of ducks fa t underwater in my life ,but you will never go forward without talking to people ,hence why i had my retube done at venture marine in salisbury ,a better expierience you could not wish for ,a redesign and even full certification
Good luck

[rik_elliott]

Thanks for the info - I wouldnt expect fitting for under 1k, but if it was 2-3k then may as well go with the hypalon at rib shop as IBS PVC is about 2.8k without fitting. im happy to pay for a proper job, but i dont much fancy paying more than my boat will ever be worth.

that is a good price with the supplier in hull. a long drive, but worth looking at for that much of a saving. venture marine is a lot closer. will give them a call.

thanks again

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by rik_elliott

Hi



After receiving an eye watering quote of about 6k from both henshaws and ribshop for a retube on a 4.7 tornado, I found that IBS boat supplies can supply tubes for a much more reasonable rate. Yes, they supply PVC rather than hypalon and I am aware of the pros and cons of the two materials - the PVC tubes will be fine for my use and better than the leaky PU tubes I currently have.



The issue is IBS don't appear to include fitting of the tubes. I am the sort to overestimate my DIY abilities so while I wouldnt mind having a crack at this, I should probably pay someone who wont ruin the tubes. Does anyone know what sort of cost I would be looking at to get premade tubes fitted - and have any ideas as to local fitters in the southampton area? If the cost is in the thousands then this line of thinking is dead in the water, but I cant imagine it would be that much?



Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

Try Dave Cowal at north west ribs and inflatables i found him far cheaper than henshaws & others

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[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by beamishken

Try Dave Cowal at north west ribs and inflatables i found him far cheaper than henshaws & others

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[emoji106]Dave Cowal, top guy.

[HDAV]

£2.8k + £2-3k = £4.8-£5.8k fitted vs £6k all done in a better material……

Yes £1000 is £1000 but are you saving from the wrong end of the equation? 20% more for hypalon seems about right if not cheap? And having tubes supplied and fitted would give your more warranty/cover of there were any issues? If you are keeping the boat long term it’s a good investment, if selling soon just add the £1k to asking price?

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by HDAV

£2.8k + £2-3k = £4.8-£5.8k fitted vs £6k all done in a better material……

Yes £1000 is £1000 but are you saving from the wrong end of the equation? 20% more for hypalon seems about right if not cheap? And having tubes supplied and fitted would give your more warranty/cover of there were any issues? If you are keeping the boat long term it’s a good investment, if selling soon just add the £1k to asking price?

Where does the 2-3k figure for fitting come from? I'd expect £1000 ish for labour to fit tubes to a 4.7m

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[HDAV]

Originally Posted by beamishken

Where does the 2-3k figure for fitting come from? I'd expect £1000 ish for labour to fit tubes to a 4.7m

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I may have misread a post above

Originally Posted by rik_elliott

Thanks for the info - I wouldnt expect fitting for under 1k, but if it was 2-3k then may as well go with the hypalon at rib shop as IBS PVC is about 2.8k without fitting. im happy to pay for a proper job

[Orwell boy]

Originally Posted by HDAV

I may have misread a post above

What i said then

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by Orwell boy

What i said then

You said he would struggle to get it done under 1k which is about where it should be but no idea where 2-3k came from. Its about 40 hours work maybe a bit less for someone experienced.
At 2.8 for tubes plus 1k fitting its a big saving from 6k although personally I wouldnt want pvc tubes but if thats your option then its better than no tubes

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[Orwell boy]

Originally Posted by beamishken

You said he would struggle to get it done under 1k which is about where it should be but no idea where 2-3k came from. Its about 40 hours work maybe a bit less for someone experienced.
At 2.8 for tubes plus 1k fitting its a big saving from 6k although personally I wouldnt want pvc tubes but if thats your option then its better than no tubes

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Yes i agree ,thats exactly what i said !........IBS pvc £2883 unfitted ,then suggested 1k for fitting would be min ,making a total of £3883 for pvc fitted
I then sugested hypalon as advertised on ribretubes site was £4295 with a little wiggle room as it lists up to 5m and the potential client is only 4.7m and its a tornado which i suggest they would make in their sleep
Basically client would get hypalon home for 4.5k so why entertain pvc @3883
sorry wasnt trying to be difficult but never mentioned 2-3k fitting and my opinion was to try RR in hull ,i didnt use them for my own retube as i didnt want such a commercial look

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by Orwell boy

Yes i agree ,thats exactly what i said !........IBS pvc £2883 unfitted ,then suggested 1k for fitting would be min ,making a total of £3883 for pvc fitted
I then sugested hypalon as advertised on ribretubes site was £4295 with a little wiggle room as it lists up to 5m and the potential client is only 4.7m and its a tornado which i suggest they would make in their sleep
Basically client would get hypalon home for 4.5k so why entertain pvc @3883
sorry wasnt trying to be difficult but never mentioned 2-3k fitting and my opinion was to try RR in hull ,i didnt use them for my own retube as i didnt want such a commercial look

I hadnt read the 4200 option either tbh just saw the 6k option I've had a retube done at the guys at hull & it was a good job, doesnt need to look commercial as they can adapt fittings as required to alter the look. I suggested Dave Cowal earlier which would be another good option and probably cheaper than rib retubes

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[rik_elliott]

I think I confused matters by asking what people would expect fitting to cost and saying 1k was OK but 2-3 wouldn't be. To be clear no one had quoted that!

Glad to see we all think 1k is about right for fitting. Will weigh up my options now.

[cgoing]

Originally Posted by rik_elliott

I think I confused matters by asking what people would expect fitting to cost and saying 1k was OK but 2-3 wouldn't be. To be clear no one had quoted that!

Glad to see we all think 1k is about right for fitting. Will weigh up my options now.

$1000.00 to install glued on tubes is way below a realistic cost at least in US. Removing old tubes, proper hull and tubes prep and install can be 20 plus hours easily on 15 foot rib.