revnger or scorpion?

[danny]

Originally Posted by Cookee

We will have the BananaShark at the show and it will meet the above requirements although it is not the normal layout for a RIB - There is a 6' (Nearly 2m) locker under the foredeck, seats 5 and rough water won't be a problem as the race boat has proved many times! Here's a thread with some photos - http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread....ht=bananashark The CE marking is mostly done and more photos and pricing to follow soon - watch this space! There will also be a seperate thread with "The making of" from plug to mould to finished boat.

She does'nt look like a banana, more like a shark.

How much power can she handle and whats her max. speed ?

Dan.

[Alan]

Originally Posted by Louise

SimpleSimon, you really are living up to your name!

In the time we have had our Scorpion (1 yr 8 mths) we have never stuffed it. I have only ever heard of a very few instances of Scorpions stuffing and in each case either the boat was out in awful weather, or the skipper admitted making an error, or both!

Regarding tubes parting company with the hull, I know of only one instance which was in the case of an early cabin RIB and the problem was rectified on that and all other cabin Scorpions.

Simon, please could you tell us exactly where you get your views on Scorpions from. Do you own one? Or use one regularly?

I suspect the Simple one is trolling a tiny bit, but....

You can of course stuff a Scorpion. I've done it, in fact I've done it with Blue Ice and Cyanide in the same place ('bout 3 miles off Plymouth breakwater) a year apart! Point is that Scorps are very seaworthy hulls, do work well, have been used for some very extended cruising (Mike Deacon, Richard Reddyhof, Allen C, Mark Wildey, Brian Elliott errm, me can all testify to that!). Are they overhyped and overpriced? Probably. Finish and build quality are excellent - Blue Ice is in better condition than many far younger RIBs, but Graham Jelly has found a niche (quite a large one) of folks who are prepared to pay the premium for his product so good luck to him I say!

Revenger's are also very well built I think. Can recall a very bumpy but solid 50kt ride in a Revenger 27 off Essex a few years ago. My only negative thought about Revengers is I'd prefer some bow sheer rather than the straight level line. Personal thing.

That being said I'd be really interested in seeing some pics of the monster ribs unlimited RIB with twin yanmars. We can all dream........

[Andy]

Revenger treated me like shit on a shoe at the Southhampton boat show!! Very poor show!

[codprawn]

Scorpion did the same to me at Ribex last year!!!

[robin]

Originally Posted by Andy

Revenger treated me like shit on a shoe at the Southhampton boat show!! Very poor show!

I have spoken recently to the people at the Swanwick branch of Revenger (Phil Morris) yesterday, and also to Tim at Northney where I keep my boat. I was treated very well by both of them despite my daft questions. Very helpful indeed. Very knowledgeable and accomodating.

I agree with you Andy it is a very poor show when you get badly treated at the boatshow by anyone, there is no excuse.

I can only think they must have had a bad hair day at SBS! Or they had dealt with Zillions of Tyre kickers and made a mistake with you.

The boats though, they speak volumes. Build quality is excellent, including (my pet hate) the wiring.

Nope...i am nothing to do with revenger but I would really like to own one one day.


Maybe they will give me a hefty discount now!! arf

[crazydonkey]

[QUOTE=Alan] I suspect the Simple one is trolling a tiny bit, /QUOTE]Eeee, tha knows that simple simon is just a jackarse!!!

[filgr]

I moved my interest from the revenger 27 to the 29 with optimax 225, as the price is really good...

[gtflash]

i seem to remember simple simon slagging off scorpion once before in another thread.. i cant find it which is a shame as when i asked him to quantify his experience and knowledge on why scorpions were renouned for stuffin iHHo he never replied. Maybe he will this time???!!!! im prepaired to listen to everyone (even the dull and ignorant) and as i want to buy a scorpion id like to know any weeknesses.. i am baffled as warped vs usually cut through evreything and blunt things stuff... i have noticed when looking around second hand scorpions some have new tubing under nose and some seem to have extra layers, maybe thats insurance and over engineering or maybe simple simon is right..

simon?? its over to you

[Louise]

Originally Posted by gtflash

i seem to remember simple simon slagging off scorpion once before in another thread.. i cant find it

Here you go: http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread....2554#post72554

[filgr]

What do you think of the 225 optimax on the revenger 29, is it enough power?

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by danny

She does'nt look like a banana, more like a shark.

How much power can she handle and whats her max. speed ?

Dan.

We have fitted a 225 Optimax to the demonstrator but the engine is only just run in and we are waiting for calmer weather for some speed testing - we are expecting speeds in excess of 60 mph quite easily though .................. (the first race boat had yellow tubes hence the Banana bit!)

[ribraff]

I've been out on the 760 with 200 opti on it and it was very lively, fast and stable, i would imagine the 225 would push the 29 along nicely but not as exciting as the 760!
One of Revenger's customers has a 27 with the 225 Evinrude on it, he was claiming 50kts +

[Jimbob]

I read all these with interest, i would say

1) Both have their own pros and cons

2) I know both can be stuffed

3) I own a scorpion and i agree they are expensive, but the finish is good, but i can only say this becuase i used to have Humbers, good boats, but i had to finish mine off.

4) As with cars, i think some of buying a boat is your choice, what is good for you may not be to other peoples liking, otherwise we would all probably have the same ribs,,,that would be boring me thinks

[cider daze]

I have had my revenger for three years raced all over country in rough conditions never stuffed it. I love it, best boat i have ever driven 200 xs best speed 69 mph and working on it

[gtflash]

why you selling it then... what you getting instead

Originally Posted by cider daze

I have had my revenger for three years raced all over country in rough conditions never stuffed it. I love it, best boat i have ever driven 200 xs best speed 69 mph and working on it

[cider daze]

looks like iam going to keep it and race another season and spend aload more money on raceing,drinking ,and having a good time, why dont you try it

[craigdavis]

Originally Posted by danny

Something around 7.5 meters wich handels very good in high waves end with enough storage-space to keep thing dry. Ofcourse they all have space for 4 seats.
Not heavyer than 1200 kg and a console with enough space for some elektronics at good heigth.
We will visit the Ribbex to see most of the Ribs next of June.

Dan.

I think the revenger 760 would be worth looking at.

[gtflash]

760 is a good boat, i been out on one in a very stiff f6 up the solent and it attacked the chop very well, even at speeds of 55mph+. naff seats though, no side support and drivers has a stupid lump of metal that i got a bruised leg from.
Landed very well when it took off

[Daniel]

Originally Posted by gtflash

naff seats though

And i just read an article in RibInit that says this boat is available only "as is" and not customisable!!!!!

Anyone know a link to their website, google returns a blank, could be helpfull for readers of this thread who don't know what a revenger 760 looks like.

[filgr]

Do you think the revenger 29 will handle better with 2x200 instead of 1x225 Optimax?