Rib 350 VS Sib 4.15

Wildrake · 16 May 2019, 18:46

Hello everyone!!!
I m a quicksilver sport XS 4.15 owner. I use it for fishing with my boyfriend and it is really good...even if it weighs 120kg

I was thinking about to buy a new one maybe more light and performing and i was seeing the quicksilver alu rib 350
I didn't have the pleasure of seeing them from live, here no one have it and there are no information on this RIb owners ... but this ALU RIB have a really appealing price

It weighs only 70 kg and my idea would be to bring it upside down on the roof of my Citroen berlingo car. (So the 350 must necessarily be or maybe 390?)

Now letting go of the fact that it will surely be tiny, and obviously in two + fishing gear we would be super tight compared to my Quicksilver 4.15, but my question is...as navigation skills, this little rib 350, will be better at sea than my sib 415 quicksilver with the aluminum pneumatic keel ?

Any 350 Rib user or Quicksilver 350 ALU rib users that can tell me how this RIB behaves at sea?

My engine is a mercury 20cv 4stroke

thank you so much and greetings from Italy

jeffstevens763@g · 18 May 2019, 19:19

There are +&- for each I think you will miss the room of 415 and the 350 will perform well but not as good a ride as the 425 IMO but putting it on the roof at 70 kg is a bonus and able to take it places the 415 wouldn't be possible to take. I have the Mercury 365 100 kg it's a heavy boat with all the kit in same boat as the quicksilver.

beamishken · 19 May 2019, 08:26

The rigid hull will perform much better. It will track and handle better as it will likely have a deeper vee and wont flex liks a larger sib will.
We switched from a 2.9m sib to a 2.8m aluminium hulled rib as tender to our cruiser and were very impressed with the improvement in performance and handling. Only slight downside is because the boat has a deeper vee and is lighter when one person sits on the tubes it does make it list more than the much flatter sib

Wildrake · 21 May 2019, 10:14

Thanks for the quote!
.. .In the end in a shop I could see a 350 rigid hull but vtr more closer and it was really too small...is a right size for a boat tender not for what I need... Seeing also the hull, for this economy rib the hull is 15degrees...so I stopped a bit and in the end I decided to buy a Mar sea in hypalon orca 4.20 with wooden hull (Marshall project)
I see it and seems Really nice hull VS my pneumatic hull (practically don't have it)

jeffstevens763@g · 21 May 2019, 10:24

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Originally Posted by Wildrake

Thanks for the quote!
.. .In the end in a shop I could see a 350 rigid hull but vtr more closer and it was really too small...is a right size for a boat tender not for what I need... Seeing also the hull, for this economy rib the hull is 15degrees...so I stopped a bit and in the end I decided to buy a Mar sea in hypalon orca 4.20 with wooden hull (Marshall project)
I see it and seems Really nice hull VS my pneumatic hull (practically don't have it)

post some photos of the boat please

Wildrake · 21 May 2019, 10:59

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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

post some photos of the boat please

Here some pics send from the owner....
He sell only package... i have to buy also the 2T 15cv mariner but at the end i will sell it and use my Mercury 20cv 4T (good boy)

Spec of the boat
Size: 4.20 x 190
Hull: wood
Tube:48cm diameter
Weight: 100kg

jeffstevens763@g · 21 May 2019, 11:03

very nice so is it a wood keel instead of the inflatable keel

Wildrake · 21 May 2019, 11:07

Yes, inside he have a wood keel that make the hull more rigid, Mar sea is a marshall Engegneer Donno project renamed

The wood need much more care than a inflatable keel... but with That V must be better!

jeffstevens763@g · 21 May 2019, 11:13

pretty much like the bombard c3,c4,etc the wood keel much better in my opinion we had one years ago slightly better performance than the inflatable keel more forgiving ride than the solid hull very shallow ribs enjoy

Wildrake · 21 May 2019, 11:15

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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

pretty much like the bombard c3,c4,etc the wood keel much better in my opinion we had one years ago slightly better performance than the inflatable keel more forgiving ride than the solid hull very shallow ribs enjoy

yes, exactly like bombard hull!!!
the 5june i go to take it from owner....800km far from my home...

will post pics of the first launch

So excited!!!

jeffstevens763@g · 21 May 2019, 11:21

great dont forget some photos of your coastline too always good to see other parts of the world.
would be very interesting to get your opinion on the difference in ride between the two boats quicksilver 415 that is.

Wildrake · 21 May 2019, 11:24

oh right... this is my youtube channel... i will upload here video!

In this one a choppy ride on my quicksilver 4.15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weRtIU2FI7I

The channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChI..._as=subscriber

in kayak videos you can see better my coast

Wildrake · 21 May 2019, 11:32

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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

great dont forget some photos of your coastline too always good to see other parts of the world.
would be very interesting to get your opinion on the difference in ride between the two boats quicksilver 415 that is.

Yes...
the description of the differences and the video of the sib assemble will not be missing

RONHAS · 21 May 2019, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Wildrake

Here some pics send from the owner....
He sell only package... i have to buy also the 2T 15cv mariner but at the end i will sell it and use my Mercury 20cv 4T (good boy)

Spec of the boat
Size: 4.20 x 190
Hull: wood
Tube:48cm diameter
Weight: 100kg

Hi,

What is the name of the piece for the cable of the anchor that you have on the bow of the left bottom picture?

Wildrake · 22 May 2019, 11:49

We call it " Musone di prua" think in English is windlass 😊

Poly · 22 May 2019, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Wildrake

We call it " Musone di prua" think in English is windlass [emoji4]

A windlass is the winch/drum you use for lifting the anchor. I think he was referring to the guide that the rope/chain (rode) goes through on the bow? In which case I would call it a fairlead but not sure if there is a special term for these rubber ones.

If you are feeling rich http://www.rib-shop.com/bow-cleat-fairlead/

warder54 · 23 May 2019, 15:20

Nice video, I was expecting to see nicer weather :-)
Where I live those conditions would be described as "almost flat calm!!"

Wildrake · 22 July 2019, 12:00

Well well... after a month from 800km travel for buy marsea here news
Finally I no longer bought the Marsea boat because the owner had sent me some pictures that masked the huge defects... and only after I saw it up close I realized that it was a really wreck!
For use it I had to restore the sib really well and the restoring costs will be more expansive because the sib have a lot of problems.
We try to talk with the owner... But the owner did not want to go down with the final price because for him he was "Perfect" (yes... Perfect for trash)

So... Left the marsea to the owner!
Finally i bought a great Honwave T40 and I'm really happy