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28 May 2011, 08:14
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Cardiff
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RIB Anti fouled
I am new to the rib world and am looking for my first rib. One I'm looking at has been anti-fouled (about 4 years old). Apparently it sat on moorings during the season and stored inside in the winter. Is this anti fouling a problem - can it be removed - I'm planning to keep boat on trailer not in the water? Any advice welcome!
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28 May 2011, 09:32
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Jersey
Boat name: Archangel
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: ETec 225
MMSI: 235063789
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I'd leave it on; it'd be too much hassle and expense to remove it.
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28 May 2011, 11:19
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Town: portsmouth
Boat name: Hullabaloo
Make: Humber
Length: 8m +
Engine: 225 Optimax
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I'd be inclined to agree and leave it on. You can remove it but it's a long and painful job if you do it yourself and therefore expensive if you get someone else to do it. Also, if it has been applied correctly, the hull will have been sanded to "key" the primer, so you will need the hull refinished to get it back to a shine. Hope that helps!
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28 May 2011, 13:02
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Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
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Just leave it on, no harm in it.
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28 May 2011, 13:08
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Rib Anti foul
Thanks for the advice - does it devalue the boat or affect performance?
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28 May 2011, 14:14
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Originally Posted by SimonW
Thanks for the advice - does it devalue the boat or affect performance?
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Yes to devaluation, especially if it is going to spend it's time in someone's driveway, where it won't be as easy on the eye. It will take a knot or two off your top speed.
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28 May 2011, 14:28
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Country: UK - England
Town: Brockenhurst
Boat name: Fizz
Make: Yamaha
Length: 4m +
Engine: Outboard 50hp
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I had the same issue - was peeling off and looking horrible (thought the hull was falling apart!). A nice man at the yacht club spent a couple of days stripping it back - obviously cost me something - but really glad I did it. Reckon it goes a bit quicker and looks much better
Cheers
Neil
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28 May 2011, 16:25
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Jersey
Boat name: Archangel
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Originally Posted by willk
Yes to devaluation, especially if it is going to spend it's time in someone's driveway, where it won't be as easy on the eye. It will take a knot or two off your top speed.
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I don't think it will devalue the boat at all. I mean, no-one's going to say "Well, normally I'd be interested, but that anti-fouling you know, it doesn't really fit in with my petunias." My boat's anti-fouled (Coppercoated actually) and I think it looks rock. As for speed, I didn't notice any effect and the good thing is I don't have to paint the hull again for another 15 years.
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28 May 2011, 16:42
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Originally Posted by GJ0KYZ
I don't think it will devalue the boat at all. I mean, no-one's going to say "Well, normally I'd be interested, but that anti-fouling you know, it doesn't really fit in with my petunias." My boat's anti-fouled (Coppercoated actually) and I think it looks rock. As for speed, I didn't notice any effect and the good thing is I don't have to paint the hull again for another 15 years.
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I didn't address the benefits of antifouling as the OP didn't ask.
I think you are mistaken regarding the effect it has on a boat's value.
On large craft that will routinely be moored for a season (e.g. yours), it is neither here nor there, unless the buyer suspects it may be concealing damage.
On smaller trailered craft it's another matter. Antifoul makes a boat less attractive to many buyers, this must have some effect on value. Your Coppercoat is a red herring as in 99.9% of cases, that's not what's on boats. Antifoul paint most certainly effects performance, but this will be hard to spot on a fastish rig like yours, more so on slower boats. Hence the market for burnishable antifouling products.
For the OP's info, if the boat is good and the price is right, go for it but forget about removing antifoul from a medium to large rib. Best case scenario, clean it off, prep/smooth the surface and paint it.
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28 May 2011, 17:02
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
I didn't address the benefits of antifouling as the OP didn't ask.
I think you are mistaken regarding the effect it has on a boat's value.
On large craft that will routinely be moored for a season (e.g. yours), it is neither here nor there, unless the buyer suspects it may be concealing damage.
On smaller trailered craft it's another matter. Antifoul makes a boat less attractive to many buyers, this must have some effect on value. Your Coppercoat is a red herring as in 99.9% of cases, that's not what's on boats. Antifoul paint most certainly effects performance, but this will be hard to spot on a fastish rig like yours, more so on slower boats. Hence the market for burnishable antifouling products.
For the OP's info, if the boat is good and the price is right, go for it but forget about removing antifoul from a medium to large rib. Best case scenario, clean it off, prep/smooth the surface and paint it.
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I agree, definitely apply new anti-foul rather than remove the old stuff, and yes, I suppose thinking about it, a boat with old anti-foul in the driveway would be less appealing. I find it hard to believe that anyone would try using that as an excuse to haggle over the price though. As for burnishable anti-foul, I wonder how long it stays shiny. You can polish up Coppercoat but it goes either green or black (depending if your boat dries out) very quickly.
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28 May 2011, 17:08
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Member
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Town: Salisbury
Boat name: Blue C
Make: XS 600
Length: 6m +
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Perspective buyer's are wary of a boat on a trailer with anti-foul, especially new anti-foul, they see is as a possible "cover up" of a known problem !! we for one would certainly want to know more !!
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29 May 2011, 06:54
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ashbypower
Perspective buyer's are wary of a boat on a trailer with anti-foul, especially new anti-foul, they see is as a possible "cover up" of a known problem !! we for one would certainly want to know more !!
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Yes, seconded. I'd pass on one and pay a bit more for a non-antifouled boat on a trailer because I can see it's not had damage covered up.
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