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18 March 2017, 11:26
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RIb boats having storage containers inside hull
Hi guys
Been seeing few RIB boats offering storage containers that actually use the space inside hull as a storage space and access from floor (seen that mainly in the bow area-see for example Aegean rib boats from greece
https://vimeo.com/148498775
but probably many more offer that, gommonautica of italy..maybe zodiac as well?)
I was wondering if there are some rules/special demands for this design?
I assume hull will be less firm if not done correctly or maybe more humidity penetration to the hull...i dont know..so what are the demands to get this done correctly?
I will be happy if anybody can give me his wizdom about that and if there is any written material to go to.
thank
sameh
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18 March 2017, 11:41
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Originally Posted by sameh
Hi guys
Been seeing few RIB boats offering storage containers that actually use the space inside hull as a storage space and access from floor (seen that mainly in the bow area-see for example Aegean rib boats from greece
https://vimeo.com/148498775
but probably many more offer that, gommonautica of italy..maybe zodiac as well?)
I was wondering if there are some rules/special demands for this design?
I assume hull will be less firm if not done correctly or maybe more humidity penetration to the hull...i dont know..so what are the demands to get this done correctly?
I will be happy if anybody can give me his wizdom about that and if there is any written material to go to.
thank
sameh
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Most boats have a bow/anchor locker
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18 March 2017, 17:01
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Most boats have a bow/anchor locker
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Talking about under hull containers that can be more towards the console not just above hull bow locker.
I should try to find some better exampme to show
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18 March 2017, 21:10
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There are some with big storage areas - but they usually have fuel tanks in them.
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18 March 2017, 21:13
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18 March 2017, 21:43
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Some people got in a lot of bother for supplying ribs with very large storage capacity!
Most ribs store under seats, in the console and anchor locker only. Trends may be different in the med, as I think I have said before there is a lot to be said for following the trends developed by the locals - usually it will reflect how people actually use their boats in the climate etc...
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18 March 2017, 23:58
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Lots of RIBs have storage under the deck. It can be as Pikey says, part of the anchor locker, but can also be accessed from within a console or cabin. My cabin is partly below deck level - Coastlines are the same. I've seen Redbays with 500L storage below decks accessed via a deck hatch.
The flip side is you reduce inherent buoyancy - a nice thing to have in a boat with balloon sides....
If the boat is built properly, a bit of damp below deck is not an issue.
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19 March 2017, 21:27
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Originally Posted by treerat
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Thats what i mean[emoji106]
Noticed your link is for chinese boat [emoji6]
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19 March 2017, 21:30
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Originally Posted by Poly
Some people got in a lot of bother for supplying ribs with very large storage capacity!
Most ribs store under seats, in the console and anchor locker only. Trends may be different in the med, as I think I have said before there is a lot to be said for following the trends developed by the locals - usually it will reflect how people actually use their boats in the climate etc...
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That is interesting what you say..but if you can give more details to get me clearer picture..do you mean in meditteranean climate allows that and maybe more fishing purpose?
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19 March 2017, 21:33
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Originally Posted by willk
Lots of RIBs have storage under the deck. It can be as Pikey says, part of the anchor locker, but can also be accessed from within a console or cabin. My cabin is partly below deck level - Coastlines are the same. I've seen Redbays with 500L storage below decks accessed via a deck hatch.
The flip side is you reduce inherent buoyancy - a nice thing to have in a boat with balloon sides....
If the boat is built properly, a bit of damp below deck is not an issue.
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Maybe it is my english..what did you mean by "the flip side" sentence?
With cabin starting underhull boat is closer to water? More pressure on tubes?
Thanks
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19 March 2017, 22:27
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Originally Posted by sameh
That is interesting what you say..but if you can give more details to get me clearer picture..do you mean in meditteranean climate allows that and maybe more fishing purpose?
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If you look at ribs around the world, and indeed even around the UK, you will see that climate has an impact on the most common layouts (and actually hull designs too). So in the med sun pads, biminis etc are common. In the UK less so, but on the South of England might be more likely to have family oriented layouts with wakeboard or ski storage etc. In Ireland and West of Scotland where it rains a lot - boats with Cabins are much more common than in S of England. Potentially different sizes and frequencies of waves typically encountered means some hulls might be better than others, whilst seat styles/layouts and even fabrics/foam might adapt to the weather/seas.
Similar trends emerge with other boats too - so fishing boats suit the type of fish, distance from shore etc, and even the number of people who might usually go together. Sailing boats also have local designs that have evolved for particular needs (you'll find bilge keels much more common in UK drying harbours than the almost tideless med etc).
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19 March 2017, 22:48
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Originally Posted by Poly
If you look at ribs around the world, and indeed even around the UK, you will see that climate has an impact on the most common layouts (and actually hull designs too). So in the med sun pads, biminis etc are common. In the UK less so, but on the South of England might be more likely to have family oriented layouts with wakeboard or ski storage etc. In Ireland and West of Scotland where it rains a lot - boats with Cabins are much more common than in S of England. Potentially different sizes and frequencies of waves typically encountered means some hulls might be better than others, whilst seat styles/layouts and even fabrics/foam might adapt to the weather/seas.
Similar trends emerge with other boats too - so fishing boats suit the type of fish, distance from shore etc, and even the number of people who might usually go together. Sailing boats also have local designs that have evolved for particular needs (you'll find bilge keels much more common in UK drying harbours than the almost tideless med etc).
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Many thanks poly for the valuable summary. Being far from your area, ur explanation gave me much better understanding of the connections you talked about! Many thanks
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02 April 2017, 12:44
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RIb boats having storage containers inside hull
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My boat has comparatively huge bow storage locker and also in the stern/transom created essentially by a high bow 'sun' deck and mounded in rear bench. But this is not at the expense of built in buoyancy - there are mounded in buoyancy chambers running fore and aft on both beams.
On cross channel trips with other boats etc, I've been able to store everything below decks whereas the usually bigger boats I've been with had to strap most stuff above deck.
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04 April 2017, 04:37
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Originally Posted by longjohn
My boat has comparatively huge bow storage locker and also in the stern/transom created essentially by a high bow 'sun' deck and mounded in rear bench. But this is not at the expense of built in buoyancy - there are mounded in buoyancy chambers running fore and aft on both beams.
On cross channel trips with other boats etc, I've been able to store everything below decks whereas the usually bigger boats I've been with had to strap most stuff above deck.
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Many thanks
What boat is it?
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04 April 2017, 11:53
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Originally Posted by sameh
Many thanks
What boat is it?
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Capelli Tempest 470 - Most Capellis have this sort of storage & fore deck - They are optimised for the Sun being Mediterranean (Italian) in origin but not at the expense of very sea worthy hulls.
https://www.cantiericapelli.com/ribs-division
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04 April 2017, 15:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by longjohn
Capelli Tempest 470 - Most Capellis have this sort of storage & fore deck - They are optimised for the Sun being Mediterranean (Italian) in origin but not at the expense of very sea worthy hulls.
https://www.cantiericapelli.com/ribs-division
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Thank you
Here is much hotter than italy...i dhould get me one of those[emoji4]
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