rib garage,your boat sizes

GED · 24 November 2007, 20:53

Just building a garage for my ribs and have a found the biggest problem is door and ceiling height. What is the average height of your rib on a trailer including 'A' frame with aerials folded down.

Downhilldai · 24 November 2007, 21:56

My garage door is 2750mm high (9' to you and me

) and I have to fold down the RIB Raider antenna to get the boat in. With the trailer level, the top of the A frame is about 8' off the floor. The A frame isn't especially high above the deck.
The garage door is a Hormann sectional type, which doesn't encroach on the headroom as the running gear is above the underside of the lintel.

Roy Smith · 25 November 2007, 16:56

Our doors are 3mt high and open to the side and the (Ariel V-tronic) still catches
at the top.
We had a Cobra 7.5 before the scorpion and when i brought the new boat home i could not get it in. we had to dash to B & Q and get a Skill saw to make the opening bigger i did not realize the Scorpion with the much deeper V hull would be so much taller on the trailer

GED · 25 November 2007, 17:53

The problem Ive got is the building needs to be under 4mts high (building regulations) also inside the garage the ceiling needs to be high as well, giving the roofing truss manufactures a nighmare as this is a wide garage.I was hoping for a roller shutter door but that takes up 350mm of door height.

Mollers · 25 November 2007, 18:26

It's upto 4m without needing planning approval. If you put an application in you can go as high as you need. I'm doing exactly the same thing. If you rigged up some sort of stainless flip-plate to mount the RibRaider type arial on it could be dropped out of the way. It's seams a lot of work to redesign a garage for an arial.

Downhilldai · 25 November 2007, 18:27

What about a roller shutter door behind the reveal? I've seen them fitted between the first and second trusses (trusses @ 600 ccs), which may work for you, if you have an issue with ceiling height.

Mollers · 25 November 2007, 18:40

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Originally Posted by Downhilldai

What about a roller shutter door behind the reveal? I've seen them fitted between the first and second trusses (trusses @ 600 ccs), which may work for you, if you have an issue with ceiling height.

The roller itself has to sit on pillars. the pillars would also need to be inside of the reveal which would result in a hellish deep reveal. I've only fitted steel roller doors, maybe a fibreglass effort would be lighter and not need a major structure to hold it up. Auto up-and-over type don't require height above the opening.

GED · 25 November 2007, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Mollers

It's upto 4m without needing planning approval. If you put an application in you can go as high as you need. I'm doing exactly the same thing. If you rigged up some sort of stainless flip-plate to mount the RibRaider type arial on it could be dropped out of the way. It's seams a lot of work to redesign a garage for an arial.

Planning approval

you wont believe the grief just in building regs....it started out as a normal large garage to replace a single car and a double car garage that is already close by. I had to dig into the side of my hill and move 600 ton

of slate, build a retaining wall, then pour a steel meshed 8" concrete slab that alone cost me a fortune. At the moment the garage is now part built measuring 11mts x 7mts and 4mts high the lintel is now in place and the trusses are now in as well. It looks like im going to have to go with double garage doors

Mollers · 25 November 2007, 19:21

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Originally Posted by GED

Planning approval

you wont believe the grief just in building regs....it started out as a normal large garage to replace a single car and a double car garage that is already close by. I had to dig into the side of my hill and move 600 ton

of slate, build a retaining wall, then pour a steel meshed 8" concrete slab that alone cost me a fortune. At the moment the garage is now part built measuring 11mts x 7mts and 4mts high the lintel is now in place and the trusses are now in as well. It looks like im going to have to go with double garage doors

Oh 'eck!

Nightmare. Cheaper to move.

Downhilldai · 25 November 2007, 19:25

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Originally Posted by Mollers

The roller itself has to sit on pillars. the pillars would also need to be inside of the reveal which would result in a hellish deep reveal. I've only fitted steel roller doors, maybe a fibreglass effort would be lighter and not need a major structure to hold it up. Auto up-and-over type don't require height above the opening.

The sort I had in mind was more of a 'domestic spec' door, which sits on gallows brackets fitted to the inside wall. I think you're talking about a heavier spec roller shutter door as seen on Cornish Industrial estates, designed to keep the Hayle ram-raiders out.

Top banana · 25 November 2007, 19:27

I had to dig into the side of my hill and move 600 ton

of slate,

welsh crushed slate. 70.00 +vat at the local merchants. 600 ton x 70.00 + vat. bet the guys digging it out will be having a good christmas.

Downhilldai · 25 November 2007, 19:41

Hope they left you enough slate for the roof

Mollers · 25 November 2007, 19:43

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Originally Posted by Downhilldai

The sort I had in mind was more of a 'domestic spec' door, which sits on gallows brackets fitted to the inside wall. I think you're talking about a heavier spec roller shutter door as seen on Cornish Industrial estates, designed to keep the Hayle ram-raiders out.

Do they do another type?

I happen to have a spare 3x3m chain pull roller shutter door, but the other 'alf wont have it on the new garage due to aesthetics. Might sneak it up and hope she doesn't notice.

Downhilldai · 25 November 2007, 19:47

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Originally Posted by Mollers

Do they do another type?

I happen to have a spare 3x3m chain pull roller shutter door, but the other 'alf wont have it on the new garage due to aesthetics. Might sneak it up and hope she doesn't notice.

What a waste of a good door - do you mean she actually looks at your garage? My other arf doesn't even know we have a garage.

Mollers · 25 November 2007, 20:03

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Originally Posted by Downhilldai

What a waste of a good door - do you mean she actually looks at your garage? My other arf doesn't even know we have a garage.

Perhaps your's could pop down and chat to mine. That should distract her long enough for me to build the garage.

Downhilldai · 25 November 2007, 20:12

That would give you long enough to redevelop half of Cornwall

GED · 25 November 2007, 20:44

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Originally Posted by Top banana

I had to dig into the side of my hill and move 600 ton

of slate,

welsh crushed slate. 70.00 +vat at the local merchants. 600 ton x 70.00 + vat. bet the guys digging it out will be having a good christmas.

not that type of slate! digger and driver £500 per day, 2 wagons @£35.00 per hour each. 2 days to complete!

Mollers · 25 November 2007, 20:49

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not that type of slate! digger and driver £500 per day, 2 wagons @£35.00 per hour each. 2 days to complete!

What the hell kind of digger was it?!! A 50 tonne swing shovel?! A wheel digger with driver should be no more than £30 an hour.

Top banana · 25 November 2007, 20:56

crushed slate, 5.00 per ton

GED · 25 November 2007, 20:59

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Originally Posted by Mollers

What the hell kind of digger was it?!! A 50 tonne swing shovel?! A wheel digger with driver should be no more than £30 an hour.

16 ton tracked jcb ,pecker and lowloader.....