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23 October 2013, 13:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth(ish)
Boat name: Wings
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha F115 AETL
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RIB Insurance
Hi all, apologies if this is in the wrong place!
As I have said in another post I'm buying my first RIB, which I collect early next week!
Does anyone have any recommendations for RIB Insurance companies? Or potential things to look out for?
I have done a couple of comparison sites that gave me between £96 p/y and £370 p/y, and also "Craftinsure" which quoted around £179 p/y.
It's for a Ribeye 600 with Yammy 115 and trailer, which will be used inland/coastal and kept ashore in a locked compound on the trailer when not in use.
Thanks all!
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23 October 2013, 13:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Daventry & Beaulieu
Boat name: Tigga2
Make: Ribcraft 4.8
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
MMSI: 235900806
Join Date: Jun 2011
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I use Navigators and General for both my Rib and Sailing Yacht
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23 October 2013, 15:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Make: RIBTEC 655
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yam 150
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,160
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Noble Marine here
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23 October 2013, 17:39
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Argyll
Boat name: Puffin
Make: Humber Destroyer
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki 90
MMSI: 235075764
Join Date: Sep 2009
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23 October 2013, 18:11
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Galway
Boat name: Top Banana
Make: Scorpion 9m
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 421STI
MMSI: Yeah right!
Join Date: Jul 2013
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+1 Navigators and General
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23 October 2013, 20:23
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Country: UK - England
Boat name: Hysucat
Make: Hysucat
Length: 8m +
Engine: Twin Suzuki 175's
MMSI: 235102645
Join Date: Jun 2013
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I recently bought my first RIB and trawled the internet for insurance. In the end the best service and a decent quote came from Towergate.
Easy to deal with, good advice.
Dont forget insurance is only worth it if you actually claim, thats when good service counts, not the fact you saved a tenner.
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23 October 2013, 21:37
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Country: UK - England
Make: Ballistic 6.5
Length: 6m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trimix
I recently bought my first RIB and trawled the internet for insurance. In the end the best service and a decent quote came from Towergate.
Easy to deal with, good advice.
Dont forget insurance is only worth it if you actually claim, thats when good service counts, not the fact you saved a tenner.
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23 October 2013, 22:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth(ish)
Boat name: Wings
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha F115 AETL
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Thanks everyone - some names to check there. Towergate gave about the most expensive quote from the comparison website and have called/emailed me almost constantly since I put my details in; a little annoying tbh.
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23 October 2013, 22:14
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Country: UK - England
Town: wirral
Boat name: midlife Too
Make: COBRA
Length: 6m +
Engine: 15O E-TEC
MMSI: one day !!
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Towergate for me too
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23 October 2013, 23:25
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
MMSI: ex directory!!
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 6,203
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Euromarine for me good service for years👍
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23 October 2013, 23:53
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Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
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Something to bear in mind is that some will quote for agreed value and others market value. Worth reading the small print so that you can check like for like quotes.
BTW I'm with Porthcawl and have been for several years. Never needed to call upon them other than renew the policy, prices seem reasonably good value for the cover I have which is agreed value.
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23 October 2013, 23:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle
Boat name: Merlin
Make: RB4 Gemini 550
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 90C
Join Date: Sep 2006
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probably a good time to buy.
I expect when the Milly report comes out, there will be a bucketful of bad press and wouldnt surprise me to see rates go up.
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24 October 2013, 07:13
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Country: UK - England
Town: Isle of Wight mostly
Make: Regal
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercruiser
MMSI: 235911246
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Originally Posted by MustRib
probably a good time to buy. I expect when the Milly report comes out, there will be a bucketful of bad press and wouldnt surprise me to see rates go up.
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What do you mean?
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24 October 2013, 07:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Ask whoever you decide upon how they manage any claims. If they use a claims management company/loss adjuster called Concordia, from personal experience I'd steer well clear
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24 October 2013, 09:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Isle of Wight mostly
Make: Regal
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercruiser
MMSI: 235911246
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Ask whoever you decide upon how they manage any claims. If they use a claims management company/loss adjuster called Concordia, from personal experience I'd steer well clear
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Wasn't your claim for two damaged gearboxes and propeller repairs agreed, paid in full, and expedited by Concordia so you could take part in a offshore cruise?
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24 October 2013, 09:49
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Thunder
Make: Halmatic Arctic 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2 x 150 Etec
Join Date: Oct 2008
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I use Bishop Skinner for both boats.
They have dealt with two claims over the years very well, they seemed happy to fight the customers corner.
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24 October 2013, 09:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Originally Posted by solent spence
Wasn't your claim for two damaged gearboxes and propeller repairs agreed, paid in full, and expedited by Concordia so you could take part in a offshore cruise?
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Eventually & only because I did all the chasing, otherwise I'd probably still be waiting.
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24 October 2013, 11:44
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth(ish)
Boat name: Wings
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha F115 AETL
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Porthcawl have given me a pretty good quote and their policy uses Agreed Value (not Market Value). The small print seems to make good reading too.
I think I might go with them! Thanks for the recommends everyone.
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24 October 2013, 12:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: West Bromwich
Boat name: Ellie V
Make: Excel Voyager 520
Length: 5m +
Engine: Evinrude 75 HP
MMSI: 235 908 287
Join Date: May 2012
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Porthcawl for me also, very good response from all contacts I have had with them
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24 October 2013, 13:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Isle of Wight mostly
Make: Regal
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercruiser
MMSI: 235911246
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Ovey, I can give you some more general pointers (this is from me personally as a boater and a buyer of insurance).
Generally all policies have similar coverage, but you need to look carefully at what is excluded or limited (e.g. geographical cruising areas, wear & tear, underwater parts, security & anti-theft requirements, fire precautions etc).
I would take photos of your boat in storage if kept on a trailer, showing clearly the fitted wheel clamps, trailer hitch locks, engine locks, and all other security measures including close up pictures. Also if you move the boat/trailer and store is somewhere else for a short period use your phone to take a couple of quick pictures once it is locked up - only takes 1 minute and hopefully will never be needed.
Should you be a victim of theft or attempted theft, then you have clear photos showing the precautions you have taken. Engine locks are usually always required and it is important to prove they are fitted, and keep receipts for purchase of them. Worth checking what the policy wording says about this and you would be well advised to discuss this with your insurer to verify that all the security devices you are using are accepted by them.
Coverage for machinery items and underwater equipment (inc props) can vary, so worth checking what is provided.
If you intend to leave a trailered boat on moorings overnight unattended then you should enquire about that also, including the amount of time it should be left unattended.
Be alert to areas where thefts are occurring as there can be hot spots. Posts on here and entries on stolenboats are handy to keep aware of. Some places seem to have more reported thefts and may be worth avoiding or taking more precautions.
Valuations for replacement parts, engines and entire boats can vary. An insurer may use the Three Stokes engine price guide, market values, price originally paid, or a combination. So also important to understand if you suffer a loss how would it be dealt with to put you back in the position you were before the incident, and you need to satisfy yourself that you are not under insured. Older outboards can be difficult to replace if an insurer relies upon heavily depreciated 'book' values.
Trailers, engines and personal effects (stuff you would not ordinarily sell with the boat) can be separately listed, so make sure your amounts listed are adequate.
If you have time you could trying speaking with the claims section of whichever insurer you select, and run through the potential scenarios that you may face to see how they would respond in general terms, and that way you can see now if you need to change any kit or ways you do things.
The cheapest possible quote may be a false economy in the long run...
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