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11 March 2003, 22:55
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Country: UK - England
Town: SOUTHAMPTON
Boat name: Won't get Fooled Again
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6.5
Engine: Honda 130
Join Date: Mar 2002
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I am personally very grateful for the fact that Ribnet is free and not commercialised. Please note the differnce between this and Hot RIBS, which is OK but doesn't have a bunch of enthusiast interacting on line.
I also believe that I would like to see Ribnet at least not be a cost burden to JK and as such I would be prepared to pay a fee towards the running costs. So I would definitely encourage advertisers and would probaly support them. I certainly would trade with a shop that operated a Ribnet Discount scheme.
Regarding the clubbing together for discounts off suppliers why don't we contact the firms that sponsored Hugo's boat on the Last round ireland trip, they are concious of the rib market and at least have spent money advertising their products directly at Ribsters. (obviuosly we need JK's blessing for this)
I realise that the more money I save means I can spend more on two stroke and petrol. mmmmmmmmmm yummmy
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11 March 2003, 23:21
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Country: UK - England
Town: Portishead, Bristol
Boat name: "
Make: Ribcraft, Cowes Mari
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 90hp 4-strok
Join Date: Aug 2001
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The forum pages of rib.net don't seem to be "sponsored" in any way - and personaly I prefer it this way.
If you look at the main www.rib.net site then this does use some banner ads, and if you sell your rib through "Boats for sale" then John does ask for a small fee (only if you sell it)
I believe this is the only commercial aspect of rib.net
As for a "Database" of suppliers - again this allready exists in www.rib.net/directory Obviously if any supplier were to give a discount of say 10% if rib.net was mentioned when purchasing then I'm sure John could add it to these pages and it might drum up some more custom for the company concerned.
So - do keep an eye on the main rib.net pages (I know its easy to bookmark just the forums!)
Jools
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12 March 2003, 09:47
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin.
Boat name: Tender 2.
Make: Valiant DR 600
Length: 6m +
Engine: 150 Optimax
MMSI: coming soon !
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Re: Data base of manufacturers etc
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Originally posted by Manos
I always go to the source rather than the middle man.
In this case we get rid off the middle man (who makes the profit) and we secure a good discount as well on the order. Is a thought but don't know how easy it will be to work in practice.
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Get a life you sad gits ! jeez I get pissed off when I see this type of thread. Who do you go whinging to when the engine gives a problem ?...... the retailer ! Do you think the importer will want to deal with you ? wake up and smell the coffee. For crying out loud just buy your two stroke oil and use it dont worry about the price. Boating in any shape or form is a very expensive hobby, if you cant afford the prices then sell the rib and get a motorbike. And before you say it....I have a bike. Manos, if you cut out the middle man who will you go to when the tubes get damaged or you need the vhf repaired ?
I have a better idea... lets look for a farmer to supply meat and veg and cut out the retailer.
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12 March 2003, 11:26
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Little Wing
Make: Searider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Tohatsu 90
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Re: Re: Data base of manufacturers etc
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Originally posted by Scotty
Get a life you sad gits !
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Must be raining in Dublin this morning!
David(old and sad)Manning
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12 March 2003, 12:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Great Harwood, Lancs
Boat name: Tigger II
Make: Bombardier Aerodeck
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 25HP
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Hi Scotty
I agree that if we want service and support with our products we need to pay for it.
HOWEVER this goes world wide, so how can the dealers etc in the US and other contries still give good service and still sell many components much much cheaper than the UK ?.
I have found item between double and 10 times the cost compaired to the US.
I contacted a US Yanmar dealer on Monday for a service kit and anodes for my new RIB engine and was told they have been told not to ship to the UK, I assume by Yanmar.
The only reason I can see for this is to force people to pay the elevated prices that the UK dealers charge.
I see this a price fixing and am not impressed at all.
I belive that we do need to pay for the service and support that the dealers give but somone is rippings us off, may not even be the delaers but the importes or manufactures but one way or another we are being ripped of compared to other parts of the world where the same product, service etc coast much less.
Regards Gary
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12 March 2003, 13:19
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Blackpool
Boat name: To Exi
Make: new sib 4 man
Length: 8+ft
Engine: Mariner 4hp long shaft
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Ok I hear what you all saying we need secure and keep Jk advertising revenue whilst being able to bye cheap ourselves.
So here is a idea only.
1x We vote a commiteee of say 6 rib net people who have the responsibility of vetting imfo and prices eg electronics/tubes/trailers /hulls/engines/ect.
2x we have a thred/ or idealy a page organised into these groups,with sub headings catergorised into radios/pumps/chandlery ect.
We then post our imfo into the correct catergory as rib net users.If the head of catergory feels its not a good deal or gets feedback that somebody can beat the deal then the imfo is out and new imfo in.
If the head is found to be on the take he is also ousted by the rest of the heads.And the heads of classifications are voted bye us on a majority basis.But can be kicked off bye a majority if we feel they are not being sharp on the case.
Its only a suggestion and will not affect Jk ad rev and will use our different expertise to help others.
It will be fun voting off people also
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12 March 2003, 13:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Great Harwood, Lancs
Boat name: Tigger II
Make: Bombardier Aerodeck
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 25HP
Join Date: Jul 2001
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I would go for that crasyhorse
Regards Gary
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12 March 2003, 15:02
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
MMSI: 235027678
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,339
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Re: Re: Data base of manufacturers etc
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Originally posted by Scotty
Boating in any shape or form is a very expensive hobby, if you cant afford the prices then sell the rib and get a motorbike. And before you say it....I have a bike. Manos, if you cut out the middle man who will you go to when the tubes get damaged or you need the vhf repaired ?
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I think I'll do the repair my self.
I ALWAYS DO ANY REPAIRS MY SELF!!
[COLOR= red]who needs the middle man!![/COLOR]
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12 March 2003, 15:04
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
MMSI: 235027678
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Brill IDEA CH!!
I support it!!
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12 March 2003, 16:09
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
MMSI: 235027678
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,339
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Scotty
By the way I have a bike (2 infact!!)
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12 March 2003, 16:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Blackpool
Boat name: To Exi
Make: new sib 4 man
Length: 8+ft
Engine: Mariner 4hp long shaft
Join Date: Nov 2002
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We need a clear Vote Yes or No,Then we get on to the voting of the Classification moderators,who can be selected bye putting themselves forward stating any specilist knoledge we should take in to account for the final votes.
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12 March 2003, 16:32
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Country: Canada
Town: Newfoundland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2000
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Errrm, sorry no, bad Idea. You mentioned that dreaded word "Committee". Organisation, beauracracy and egos then. Been there done that, come here to avoid it. Well everything except the egos that is.
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12 March 2003, 16:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Blackpool
Boat name: To Exi
Make: new sib 4 man
Length: 8+ft
Engine: Mariner 4hp long shaft
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Ok we have three for the commitee to reduce costs down and one against So far.
Thanks for voting
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12 March 2003, 17:01
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
MMSI: 235027678
Join Date: Sep 2002
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I vote for this. But who do we vote for??
Do we have any names put forward??
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12 March 2003, 17:13
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Blackpool
Boat name: To Exi
Make: new sib 4 man
Length: 8+ft
Engine: Mariner 4hp long shaft
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,012
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I want JF to be our our engine man, if he will do it.But its my personal nomination and is open to all if it is a runner.We need be all in agreement ,then get on with the voting,IMHO Those that dont want to be part of it can always buy from the pages but not vote for Classification moderators ,as it could be deemed by scepticks that they are not be behind the succses of the scheme.
Alan can change his mind as all of us can for the final yes or no.
3 fro 1 against Sorry to have any rules as i hate them, but we need to have some structure if we want a chance of sucsess.
The final vote is with JK to give us the ok
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12 March 2003, 17:40
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
MMSI: 235027678
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by crazyhorse
I want JF to be our our engine man, if he will do it.But its my personal nomination and is open to all if it is a runner.
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HAVE YOU GONE MAD??
Just kiddingLOLOL
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12 March 2003, 18:07
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Blackpool
Boat name: To Exi
Make: new sib 4 man
Length: 8+ft
Engine: Mariner 4hp long shaft
Join Date: Nov 2002
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3+A cat for 1 against , The cat might swing it lol
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12 March 2003, 19:39
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Little Wing
Make: Searider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Tohatsu 90
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,069
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Quote:
Originally posted by crazyhorse
The cat might swing it.
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Not in your cabin, it won't CH. Personally, I prefer to use my charming personality to develop a working relationship with my local chandlers who have all ended up as friends over the years. They know me as a fair minded person who does not object to them making a living but draws the line at paying for their Sunseeker in Monaco. IMHO, a section where members are aware of a particular bargain price or exceptionally good service may suffice.
Discount Dave. + 1 pit dachsund(cat killer)
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12 March 2003, 19:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Blackpool
Boat name: To Exi
Make: new sib 4 man
Length: 8+ft
Engine: Mariner 4hp long shaft
Join Date: Nov 2002
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pressed the wrong keys sorry Is Dave vote a ye or no?
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12 March 2003, 19:44
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Blackpool
Boat name: To Exi
Make: new sib 4 man
Length: 8+ft
Engine: Mariner 4hp long shaft
Join Date: Nov 2002
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3+ cat FOR X2 against I think?
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